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Canon 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 vs. 28-135 f/3.5-5.6

 
tiachick
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Sep 30, 2012 13:22 |  #1

I have the T1i, the kit lens and a 50mm f/1.8. I'm looking for a lens that will be able to deliver great portraits (newborn, family; close up as well as full length), with a great background blur, but also one that I can use "everyday". Both of these lenses have good reviews, but I'm not sure if anyone knows if one is preferred over another?

Other lenses I was considering are-

Canon 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5
Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8

These are much more expensive, but I want to get an idea of if I can achieve the desired results with the first listed ones above, and if not, which of these last listed ones to consider. SHould I be considering any other ones?

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Sep 30, 2012 13:28 |  #2

The sigma is faster so it will give better background blur.

The 28-135 is not very wide, so the 18-135 is much more flexible.

Here is a review:

http://www.kenrockwell​.com/canon/lenses/18-135mm.htm (external link)


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Sep 30, 2012 13:43 |  #3

What a great review!! Very informative. Thank you!! I found this one at a great price (used) so I can't pass it up.

One last question since you pointed out the sigma at 24-70mm. I was looking at reviews on that focal range and the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 got rave reviews, even compared to the MUCH more expensive Canon 24-70 f/2.8. Any input on the comparison of these 2?




  
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Sep 30, 2012 13:45 |  #4

You've already got it with your 50.




  
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Sep 30, 2012 14:50 as a reply to  @ crn3371's post |  #5

I've owned/own three of the four lenses you are inquiring about.

1) The 18-135mm is quite a bit sharper than the 28-135mm, with my two copies anyhow, and as Canon used higher grade glass. It can suffer from some vigneting though.

2) The 28-135mm is a nice looking and solid lens but as noted isn't quite as sharp as the newer 18-135mm. It does focus slightly faster with the USM motor but only slightly and no real issue, unless you are a sports photog. 28mm isn't quite wide enough on a crop camera as a everyday walk around lens though, for most folks. It can be very tight and even impossible at times for full body indoor shots.

I eventually purchased the Canon 15-85mm which is a superior lens to either one of those and near "L" quality. It however costs over $500.00 used. Great lens and razor sharp. Go HERE (external link) for Canon specs on their lenses and camera's.

None of those lenses will get you any spectacular or real shallow DOF for portraits though. You can take good portrait shots with them but you cannot attain the shallow DOF that a f1.8 or f2.8 lens will render for portraits.

3) I just purchased the Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 for that specific purpose though and can tell you that lens is awesome! One of the best (affordable) lenses you can get for a crop sensor (+ - $300.00 used). See my thread HERE.


If more concerned with good portraits, I would recommend getting the Tamron 28-75mm first and then add the 18-135mm later as your general walk around lens. If more concerned with versatility, then go with the 18-135mm for now and add the Tamron later.


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Sep 30, 2012 14:52 |  #6

Thanks for the review...just bought one off of EBAY




  
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Sep 30, 2012 15:30 |  #7

krandy21784 wrote in post #15061670 (external link)
Thanks for the review...just bought one off of EBAY

What did you buy?


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Sep 30, 2012 15:41 |  #8

Bought one... which? The suspense is killing me!


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Sep 30, 2012 19:31 as a reply to  @ Ags1's post |  #9

Thanks everyone for your input. Ralph, I'm so glad that you gave your review on each of the lenses. It really helped to clear things up.
I ended up buying the 18-135mm simply because it was a super deal ($200 and in store it's $450), and well below my "allowance" for buying a new lens(es). So now I have more "allowance" to use on another used lens. After reading the review, I will be on the lookout for the Tamron 28-75mm used, though. I can't find any used in my area, instead they've been running $500. Not too bad, but I'm hoping to find one around the suggested price from you, Ralph. Fingers crossed. :) ANy suggestions on good places online to look?

Q: how does one evaluate a used lens, other than looking for physical damage, etc., and trying it out? The more I spend on a used lens, the more I'm afraid of getting screwed over (forgive my language).




  
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Sep 30, 2012 22:26 |  #10

tiachick wrote in post #15062582 (external link)
Thanks everyone for your input. Ralph, I'm so glad that you gave your review on each of the lenses. It really helped to clear things up.
I ended up buying the 18-135mm simply because it was a super deal ($200 and in store it's $450), and well below my "allowance" for buying a new lens(es). So now I have more "allowance" to use on another used lens. After reading the review, I will be on the lookout for the Tamron 28-75mm used, though. I can't find any used in my area, instead they've been running $500. Not too bad, but I'm hoping to find one around the suggested price from you, Ralph. Fingers crossed. :) ANy suggestions on good places online to look?

Q: how does one evaluate a used lens, other than looking for physical damage, etc., and trying it out? The more I spend on a used lens, the more I'm afraid of getting screwed over (forgive my language).

Congrats. I think you will like the 18-135mm especially as a walk around lens. Note, they have a new version out, 18-135mm STM. It is supposed to be a slight improvement (focus) to the original version. I'm waiting to see feedback as to whether they have improved the image quality also but doubt. I think those come bundled only but can be had for around $400.00 brand new on Ebay.

1) Where to buy:

a) This forum is an excellent place to purchase used equipment. Most folks here are very familiar with the equipment (pro's and advanced amateurs) and I'd say less likely to be deceptive. That's not to say you shouldn't do your homework and know who you are dealing with.

You can go to the "Marketplace" section and post WTB (want to buy). FYI, never use the Paypal "gift" option to buy anything! Always use Paypal with your Credit Card. That gives you the option of filing a complaint through Paypal or directly with your Credit Card if ever necessary.

b) Fred Miranda is another excellent site.

c) Ebay. I've done business on Ebay for 10 years and still enjoy it. You just need to do your homework and know who you are dealing with. Be patient in looking for deals and make sure to ask plenty of questions, etc.

Otherwise, you can buy the Tamron 28-75mm Brand New at Adorama, B&H, or such as Abes of Maine ($475.00). It comes with a 6 year warranty.

2) What to look for with a used lens:

a) I always try to get the history of the lens first. Are they the original owner (yes = best), how was it used (indoors mostly = best), how often was it used (rarely = best), etc. You may not always get 100% honesty but this helps to weed out questionable Sellers. They are less likely to be forthcoming in their listings or replies.

Next, inquire as to the condition. Have them rate the condition, ever any issues, any dust or oil within the lens, is it a sharp copy (some copies are not), does it focus correctly, etc. This gives you grounds to return if the item isn't as described and again helps weed out questionable Sellers.

All of these things will help you get a better "feel" for a lens and Seller.

b) When the lens comes in look for all those things. Be sure the IS or AF both work correctly, if applicable. Then test the overall image sharpness to confirm no issues. You should also put it on a tripod and take a photo of an image at about 45% or less to check for any front or back focus issues. Use the lenses lowest Aperture. Your target letter should be in best focus.

Lastly, some lenses suffer form lens creep. This is more of a nuissance than a flaw (very common) but something to consider if all else is equal between your choices.

Good luck,
Ralph


P.S. Let us know how it goes...


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