Thanks for all the input! I'm mainly looking for something to do low light w/o flash and i am not very concerned with all the features that the 1.4 has over the 1.8. The 85 is just too long when sitting at a table, but the 28 isn't anywhere near the bargain, but the 50 is still in an acceptable range for use sitting at a table or in a small area within a restaraunt. I was just wondering how much more light I get with the 1.4 against the 1.8 and if it was significant enough (which it doesn't seem to be) to warrant going after the 1.4 rather than the 1.8.

