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Oct 01, 2012 08:45 |  #1

I am planning a trip to Australia and New Zealand and need to upgrade camera bodies. I currently have a 10D and a 20d. We have 3L lenses that we have been using since film days (circa 2001).
16-35L, 24-70L, 100-400 IS L and a 1.4 extender. Also have a 50mm prime lens and cheap kit type zooms from 1999.

I could trade in one of the old film bodies through the Canon loyalty program on a newer refurbished body.
We do a lot of landscape and wildlife photos when we travel. Should we go for a full frame camera on the upgrade? Are these lenses still considered "quality"


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Oct 01, 2012 08:58 |  #2

Yes, I would say that the L's are all still quality. I personally use the 24-70 and 100-400.


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Oct 01, 2012 16:23 |  #3

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I am planning a trip to Australia and New Zealand and need to upgrade camera bodies. I currently have a 10D and a 20d. We have 3L lenses that we have been using since film days (circa 2001).
16-35L, 24-70L, 100-400 IS L and a 1.4 extender. Also have a 50mm prime lens and cheap kit type zooms from 1999.

I could trade in one of the old film bodies through the Canon loyalty program on a newer refurbished body.
We do a lot of landscape and wildlife photos when we travel. Should we go for a full frame camera on the upgrade? Are these lenses still considered "quality"

Those are definitely some very good lenses, although the 24-70 does not have a good reputation for maintaining calibration, so it may need servicing. Landscape sounds like a good match for full frame but not wildlife. A lot depends on how close you can get to the wildlife and if it is moving or not. If we are talking about getting close to a perched bird, then a full frame camera, like the 5D Mk2, will be fine. However, for typical 'birds in flight' type action, something like a 7D would do much better.

Also, keep in mind that the 1.4X extender will only auto-focus on the 100-400L when used on a 1D series camera (except the new 1DX). The aperture of the 100-400L is too small when combined with the 1.4X extender to AF on a 5D Mk2 or a 7D.


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Oct 01, 2012 20:58 |  #4

Beware...if you fly Qantas they are quite strict about carryon luggage fitting within the size check frame with absolutely no angling of the bag as you drop it into the checking frame -- the feet or wheels on the bag might cause Qantas staff to disallow the bag as carryon! And Air New Zealand can be quite strict about 7kg limit on carryon weight. After moving a bunch of things into the checked baggage, the ANZ agent let me get by with 0.5kg over the limit!


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Oct 04, 2012 15:27 |  #5

I just ordered a refurbished Canon 7D (price dropped again today) and used the loyalty program. They will be getting an Elan IIE that hasn't been out of its camera bag since 2001.
I'll wait till the 6D comes out before I decide on a FF camera.

PS: When I was looking through the closet I found my EOS3. Wish they made a digital that nice in that price range.


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Oct 04, 2012 15:31 |  #6

Yogi Bear wrote in post #15066422 (external link)
Those are definitely some very good lenses, although the 24-70 does not have a good reputation for maintaining calibration, so it may need servicing. Landscape sounds like a good match for full frame but not wildlife. A lot depends on how close you can get to the wildlife and if it is moving or not. If we are talking about getting close to a perched bird, then a full frame camera, like the 5D Mk2, will be fine. However, for typical 'birds in flight' type action, something like a 7D would do much better.

Also, keep in mind that the 1.4X extender will only auto-focus on the 100-400L when used on a 1D series camera (except the new 1DX). The aperture of the 100-400L is too small when combined with the 1.4X extender to AF on a 5D Mk2 or a 7D.

I bought the extender to work with the 100-400L and my trusty EOS3. Truth be told, never cared for the extender.


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Oct 04, 2012 15:51 |  #7

MrEWorm wrote in post #15080000 (external link)
I just ordered a refurbished Canon 7D (price dropped again today) and used the loyalty program. They will be getting an Elan IIE that hasn't been out of its camera bag since 2001.
I'll wait till the 6D comes out before I decide on a FF camera.

PS: When I was looking through the closet I found my EOS3. Wish they made a digital that nice in that price range.

Congratulations! You're going to love it! Good luck on your trip!


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Oct 07, 2012 11:06 |  #8

[QUOTE=Wilt;15067468]B​eware...if you fly Qantas they are quite strict about carryon luggage fitting within the size check frame

I have newer had any problems on any of my many flights with Qantas.


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Oct 07, 2012 12:40 |  #9

I'd sell off all the film equipment if you don't use it, the higher end gear can fetch some neat $ right now


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Oct 07, 2012 14:07 |  #10

Wilt wrote in post #15067468 (external link)
And Air New Zealand can be quite strict about 7kg limit on carryon weight. After moving a bunch of things into the checked baggage, the ANZ agent let me get by with 0.5kg over the limit!

I've never once had a problem with my bag on AirNZ.




  
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Oct 07, 2012 15:28 |  #11

Wilt wrote in post #15067468 (external link)
Air New Zealand can be quite strict about 7kg limit on carryon weight.

Simpleboy wrote in post #15091062 (external link)
I've never once had a problem with my bag on AirNZ.

It's pretty much the same all over the world - some check-in folks are more vigilent than others about applying their rules, others either don't care or don't follow a standard properly. If everyone followed the rules correctly (both travellers & check-in staff) there would be a lot less hassle with no "grey area" where some folks get away with carrying their kitchen sink, and others get pinged for having 10 gram over stipulated weight.

Some sectors have different rules too, because of differing sized aircraft so unless you've looked into each route carefully it's not always easy to work out what the rules are until you get to the check-in.

Best advice is travel light and get to check-in early.


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Oct 07, 2012 15:34 as a reply to  @ joeseph's post |  #12

If everyone followed the rules correctly (both travellers & check-in staff) there would be a lot less hassle with no "grey area" where some folks get away with carrying their kitchen sink, and others get pinged for having 10 gram over stipulated weight.

I frequently fly Denmark - Australia (with British Airways), on codeshare flights, with BA I can have 23Kg carry-on luggage, the person next to me booked with Qantas can have 7Kg carry-on luggage, explain that.... (Qantas says it´s because of safety, if the bags should fall out of the overhead locker.....)


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Oct 07, 2012 15:53 |  #13

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I frequently fly Denmark - Australia (with British Airways), on codeshare flights, with BA I can have 23Kg carry-on luggage, the person next to me booked with Qantas can have 7Kg carry-on luggage, explain that.... (Qantas says it´s because of safety, if the bags should fall out of the overhead locker.....)

which would you prefer, a BA bag, or a QANTAS bag fall on your head... ;)

totally agree that there should be a common standard, I can see one day we won't be allowed any carry-on, but that's another story.


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Oct 07, 2012 15:55 as a reply to  @ joeseph's post |  #14

totally agree that there should be a common standard, I can see one day we won't be allowed any carry-on, but that's another story.[/QUOTE]

If that day should ever come, it would be the end of airlines.


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Oct 07, 2012 19:38 |  #15

OP,

Where are you going in Aussie ???
What do you want to shoot ??

Personally I have a 7D & a few lenses ,...but Id take a 18-200 & maybe a 100-400 if going out in the bush or outback & want some wildlife shots because of the distance..

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