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Oct 10, 2012 20:51 |  #61

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You could ask, but I doubt they'd give very specific information on this at this point. I'd be very surprised if the ISO capability is the same as that of the 5mk3's, but I'd sure bet it would better than that of the 7D's. Just how much better is anyone's guess.

Understandable...so then the question is, based on that info, 6D or 5D mark ii?




  
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Oct 10, 2012 21:31 |  #62

Apricane wrote in post #15105524 (external link)
You could ask, but I doubt they'd give very specific information on this at this point. I'd be very surprised if the ISO capability is the same as that of the 5mk3's

Why would this be a surprise? They both have the same native ISO range, and the 6D even has the advantage of having slightly bigger pixels compared to the 5DIII, which should translate to better high ISO performance.


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Oct 10, 2012 21:39 |  #63

esanders101 wrote in post #15106035 (external link)
Understandable...so then the question is, based on that info, 6D or 5D mark ii?

lol, I'll give the 6D the benefit of the doubt, at least until someone else than me will have bought and tried it for real after release :cool:


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Oct 10, 2012 21:43 |  #64

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Why would this be a surprise? They both have the same native ISO range, and the 6D even has the advantage of having slightly bigger pixels compared to the 5DIII, which should translate to better high ISO performance.

Hmm ok, I thought that the 6D would have slightly smaller sensor (and still not the same one as the 5D3, even if the native ISO of both might be the same), translating into ISO performance that might be somewhat (but not necessarily hugely) inferior. I could definitely be wrong, since those are just impressions.


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Oct 10, 2012 21:55 |  #65

Apricane wrote in post #15106244 (external link)
Hmm ok, I thought that the 6D would have slightly smaller sensor (and still not the same one as the 5D3, even if the native ISO of both might be the same), translating into ISO performance that might be somewhat (but not necessarily hugely) inferior. I could definitely be wrong, since those are just impressions.

Actually, using that logic, though the 6D sensor is smaller, it also has less resolution. Doing the math, the 5DMkIII has a pixel pitch of 160 sensels per mm and the 6D has 152 sensels per mm. So, the 6D has larger pixels thus less noise, right?

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Oct 10, 2012 21:58 |  #66

Apricane wrote in post #15106244 (external link)
Hmm ok, I thought that the 6D would have slightly smaller sensor (and still not the same one as the 5D3, even if the native ISO of both might be the same), translating into ISO performance that might be somewhat (but not necessarily hugely) inferior. I could definitely be wrong, since those are just impressions.

You're right, the sensor on the 6D is very slightly smaller, its ~0.1mm smaller in each dimension, but because it has less pixels, the pixel pitch on the 6D is 6.55 microns vs the 6.25 on the 5DIII (and 6.4 on the 5DII).


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Oct 10, 2012 22:49 |  #67

I didn't know what you guys were talking about until I checked the Canon website and saw the 35.8mm x 23.9mm sensor dimensions.

I guess that means it REALLY is a brand new sensor and not the same one used in the 5Diii.


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Oct 11, 2012 00:06 |  #68

So from what you all are saying, the rating "supposedly" goes like this in terms of ISO performance
1. 6D
2. 5D mark iii
3. 5D mark ii

correct me if I am wrong




  
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Oct 11, 2012 00:11 |  #69

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So from what you all are saying, the rating "supposedly" goes like this in terms of ISO performance
1. 6D
2. 5D mark iii
3. 5D mark ii

correct me if I am wrong

Theoretically yes

But we really dont know till we see the actual thing...


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Oct 11, 2012 00:17 |  #70

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Theoretically yes

But we really dont know till we see the actual thing...

Yes of course...I am just trying to decide what to buy ASAP. was wondering if I should settle for the reasonably priced mark ii, or save up for the mark iii. And then Canon sent the curve ball mystery 6D.

Honestly I just want to know if the mark ii's ISO performance is worth the money or if the 6D should be better.




  
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Oct 11, 2012 00:21 |  #71

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Yes of course...I am just trying to decide what to buy ASAP. was wondering if I should settle for the reasonably priced mark ii, or save up for the mark iii. And then Canon sent the curve ball mystery 6D.

Honestly I just want to know if the mark ii's ISO performance is worth the money or if the 6D should be better.

My money and logic says the 6D will beat the 5DII

The curve ball is going to be how it fares against the 1DX and 5DIII

That said, if you have something planned, having a 5DII now and shooting with it until the 6D comes out is better than waiting on the 6D no matter how good it is...


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Oct 11, 2012 02:14 as a reply to  @ KenjiS's post |  #72

^1. My wallet really loves the 6D price tag as a FF. The features are just right for my way to take photos when travelling, the HDR and GPS are the most interesting new goodies and of course the sensitivity.
5D3 is very nice, but 1000€ more is too much for me, I prefer to spend those bucks for a widezoom. So, we must wait to see how the 6D works in the real world and wait to see, is there some evolution from the September preproductions models. -?

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Oct 11, 2012 02:50 |  #73

KenjiS wrote in post #15106735 (external link)
My money and logic says the 6D will beat the 5DII

The curve ball is going to be how it fares against the 1DX and 5DIII

That said, if you have something planned, having a 5DII now and shooting with it until the 6D comes out is better than waiting on the 6D no matter how good it is...

Unless you have a business need for a FF camera I would wait 2 months. If then the camera doesn't live up to exceptions you can then still get the 5Dmk2


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Oct 11, 2012 03:04 |  #74

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Unless you have a business need for a FF camera I would wait 2 months. If then the camera doesn't live up to exceptions you can then still get the 5Dmk2

My concern with that is that in 2 months they might have sold out of 5DIIs brand new in box at stores and used prices might creep up a bit more because of supply/demand


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Oct 11, 2012 03:18 |  #75

that's a point and that may happen. but unless the 6D turns out to be a waste of time then by the it would be a better buy. imo :)

it's just impossible to figure out what the market is going to do. while it more than likely wont happen, the 6D could come out and it's has less noise than the 5dmk2 some users could jump from that to the 6D. they may not have jumped to the 5dmk3 because it cost to much.


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