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5DMK2 vs. 7D, which to buy?

 
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Oct 05, 2012 22:31 |  #61

MakisM1 wrote in post #15085627 (external link)
Disregarding the DOF issues for the moment...

Although a 50 mm in the 7D will fill the frame in a portrait, using an 85 mm on a 5DII can fill the frame similarly, but the perspective of the facial characteristics will not be the same (i.e. the nose would be more exaggerated with the 50, the ears might appear a bit further back etc).

EDIT: Imagine shooting with a 30 and a 50 where the distortion would be more pronounced... I tried to shoot headshots of my wife at about 35 m with the zoom and she found them anattractive. The 50 worked better, but I ran out of room in oyr NY appartment. I wish I could use the 70 mm of the 70-200 MkII...

Part of that is lens and also distance. I have never really had that issue but then again I never fill the frame, I always leave room for a bit of cropping. The portrait shots from the 7d, whether a paid gig or just family worked out beautifully.


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Oct 05, 2012 23:29 |  #62

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Could you expound on this a little more? It sounds like it's more than just an angle of view issue as far as what you're getting for portraiture from your 7D versus your 5D2.

Frankly, if you've got both, you may as well use the 5D2 for portraits as long as you don't find the autofocus system to be limiting in any way. But nobody has been able to explain to me how the 7D falls short for portrait work, even when compared with the 5D2, and that's why I'm wondering how you found it limiting.

I have to wonder, too, if the people who find full frame most appealing for portraits tend to be people who used to shoot film and are really used to the "look and feel" of full frame. There's certainly nothing wrong with that -- everyone has their preferences, after all.

As I said, the 5DII reminds me of my film days. To your question on the 7D and portraiture, I normally shoot with my 70-200 2.8 IS II racked out on my 5DII. Doing so with my 7D requires more room between subject and I, and it takes me several wasted shots to get the same feel of image with the 7D. Had I a narrower but longer studio, the 7D would be my only body. I could do my studio work, and take it to the sports arena and be happy as a clam. It isn't, I don't and therefore I have a FF body as well.

As harsh as this might sound, I normally don't 'leave room for cropping' unless I am doing environmental/outdoor portraits, and then cropping is to remedy a bad background or poor composition. In studio, the model is the only subject, therefore cropping for me isn't necessary. Not saying it is a bad thing to do the neg space thing, but just not my style. I like the compression focal length gives me, and the 5DII knocks it out of the park.

Hope this explains what I mightve have missed earlier. Thanks.


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Oct 09, 2012 04:14 |  #63

paulkaye wrote in post #15075380 (external link)
Go for the 7d for:
- FPS
- AF performance, esp for tracking moving subjects
- compatibility with any efs lenses you've already got

Go for the 5dii for:
- better IQ - esp if you do large prints or lots of cropping
- better low-light capability

Both are great cameras and both can be used for virtually any subjects, but you'll be better off with the 5dii for portraits and landscapes and with the 7d for action. It doesn't mean that the 5d can't do action or that the 7d can't do landscapes, just that you'll find it easier with the right tool.

Paulkaye, I noticed the compatibility issue with the 5DM2 and efs lenses after ordering. How much of a communication from lens to camera is this going to cause?


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Oct 09, 2012 04:18 |  #64

MVS photography wrote in post #15097735 (external link)
Paulkaye, I noticed the compatibility issue with the 5DM2 and efs lenses after ordering. How much of a communication from lens to camera is this going to cause?

Are you sure you mean EF-s?
The 5DII is full frame and only works with EF lenses.
The 7D is crop and works with both.


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Oct 09, 2012 04:21 |  #65

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Agreed!

How hard it is to compare the specs and see witch one is best for you? It doesn't matter what everybody suggest, its all about what you shoot.

If it where all that simple, what would be the point on POTN. I'm sorry, maybe I should asked you first, what I am to use POTN for. If we all could be as knowledgeable as you.


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Oct 09, 2012 04:25 |  #66

MVS photography wrote in post #15097750 (external link)
If it where all that simple, what would be the point on POTN. I'm sorry, maybe I should asked you first, what I am to use POTN for. If we all could be as knowledgeable as you.

It might be best for you to pick one, hire it, and see how you get on with it. Both are great camera's. Which ever you pick it won't be the wrong choice.


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Oct 09, 2012 04:25 |  #67

Scooby888 wrote in post #15097743 (external link)
Are you sure you mean EF-s?
The 5DII is full frame and only works with EF lenses.
The 7D is crop and works with both.

Scooby888, I'm not sure. I presently use a 40D with 24-70L and 70-200L f4. Am I going to have to send the 5DMK2 back because of my present lens?


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Oct 09, 2012 04:28 |  #68

MVS photography wrote in post #15097755 (external link)
Scooby888, I'm not sure. I presently use a 40D with 24-70L and 70-200L f4. Am I going to have to send the 5DMK2 back because of my present lens?

All your lenses are good for both


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Oct 09, 2012 04:40 |  #69

MVS photography wrote in post #15097755 (external link)
Scooby888, I'm not sure. I presently use a 40D with 24-70L and 70-200L f4. Am I going to have to send the 5DMK2 back because of my present lens?

Hi,

Both your 24-70 and the 70-200 are Ef lenses so you can use these on both camera's.
Ef lenses are identified by a red location dot, Ef-s lenses have a white location dot.

A full frame camera can only take EF lenses (5Dc, 5DII, 5DIII), a crop camera can take both (50d, 60d, 7d).

Hope this helps.


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Oct 09, 2012 04:41 |  #70

MVS photography wrote in post #15097755 (external link)
Scooby888, I'm not sure. I presently use a 40D with 24-70L and 70-200L f4. Am I going to have to send the 5DMK2 back because of my present lens?

Your lenses are all EF so you are good to go.


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Oct 09, 2012 05:51 |  #71

Thanks to all who responded to my concerns. This has been extremely helpful.


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Dec 22, 2012 00:17 |  #72

Sorry to attach myself to this thread, but I was thinking fo upgrading from my 30D to one of either the 7D or the 5D mark II. I read through this post thinking it would help me, but I still don't know what to do. I am an amatuer photographer who has kids, which means I take a lot of pictures of birthday parties, school concerts, plays, ect. I also take a lot of pictures of my kids playing sports ( Football, basketball, baseball and tennis). Every summer we take a vacation to different National Parks and I REALLY enjoy taking pictures of the landscapes.
So after reading through this post and all its replies, it would seem that I should use 2 different cameras. For the indoor stuff and landscapes, 5D MarkII and the sport stuff the 7D. That is not an option. Any suggestions?




  
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Dec 22, 2012 00:31 |  #73

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... I was thinking of upgrading from my 30D to one of either the 7D or the 5D mark II.
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So after reading through this post and all its replies, it would seem that I should use 2 different cameras. For the indoor stuff and landscapes, 5D MarkII and the sport stuff the 7D. That is not an option. Any suggestions?

I would think the 7D would suit you fine. I jumped from a 30D to a 7D, and later added a 5DII. Having had both at the same time I opted to keep the 5DII and let the 7D go .. but my photography is mainly wildlife ( I don't shoot sports).


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Dec 22, 2012 00:42 |  #74

Brsix wrote in post #15395655 (external link)
Sorry to attach myself to this thread, but I was thinking fo upgrading from my 30D to one of either the 7D or the 5D mark II. I read through this post thinking it would help me, but I still don't know what to do. I am an amatuer photographer who has kids, which means I take a lot of pictures of birthday parties, school concerts, plays, ect. I also take a lot of pictures of my kids playing sports ( Football, basketball, baseball and tennis). Every summer we take a vacation to different National Parks and I REALLY enjoy taking pictures of the landscapes.
So after reading through this post and all its replies, it would seem that I should use 2 different cameras. For the indoor stuff and landscapes, 5D MarkII and the sport stuff the 7D. That is not an option. Any suggestions?

If your 30d is good enough for sports, then keep it and add the 5d2 for everything else. I was underwhelmed with the 7d and went a similar path. The AF was good, but the picture quality was only slightly better than the 30d. The 5d2 on the other hand, was clearly another league.


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Dec 22, 2012 00:49 |  #75

The 5D Mark II has been discontinued. OP, what are your feelings on the 6D?


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