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Thread started 08 Oct 2012 (Monday) 03:49
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PixelHK TD-381 or Yongnuo SF-18 battery packs for 550/580EX

 
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Oct 08, 2012 03:49 |  #1

My CP-E3 and CP-E4 are making much louder ticking noises than they used to, I don't want to use them professionally any more. I would rather not buy more Canons as both units do it, the CP-E4's worse than the older CP-E3.

I have two PixelHK packs for my Nikon flashes, they work great and have for a couple of years at least, and the dual circuits mean they charge quickly. They're about US$70 each I think.

The Yongnuo SF-18 costs about half as much. I have one of their video lights, it seems to work fine, though there are some things I don't like about it - it's obviously cheap.

Which battery pack do people recommend these days? I need them within four weeks, which means buying from ebay I need a reliable seller. The price isn't the main factor, performance and reliability is.


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Oct 08, 2012 04:54 |  #2

Tim:
Pixel TD-381:


  1. DUAL circuitry - if one set of (4) batteries fails, the unit still works albeit marginally slower.
  2. More expensive than Yongnuo SF-18 (but still miles cheaper than Canon).
  3. Independent channel verification - you can see that each/1st/2nd channel is working, depending on battery loading.
  4. Some TD-381 versions make a slight tick (apparently it's restricted to Canon-compatibles so wouldn't apply to your TD-382/3 variants) which has been described as 'annoying' (one of mine does, but it's only very slight - I have to take the bag off and listen hard)
Yongnuo SF-18:

  1. Cheaper still than Pixel alternative - virtually a disposable power pack at the current prices. Certainly not worth postage to/from China to get fixed if they should happen to go wrong.
  2. Better bag than Pixel (useful little cinch strap).
  3. SINGLE circuit - it either works or not, no fall-back position if even one NiMH cell goes down (as they do).
If you already have Pixel packs for Nikon and they are satisfactory, why are you considering Yongnuo for Canon - or are you just considering all options? I have several Pixel TD-381 and have been responsible for several others being bought and they too have all proved totally satisfactory. They're faster than Canon (a bit), they're a heck of a lot cheaper and they have that dual circuitry which is a definite advance on the alternatives. NiMH accumulators do drain at different rates and it only takes 1 cell in a set to render the whole set inoperable so having 2 individual sets working independently seems to me the better option by far.

If I was being really picky, I'd like to see and on/off switch as I'm not mad keen on the only form of isolation being unplugging. Having said that, the only external pack I've had with this option was a System 9 for Metz 45s and they (System 9) disappeared decades ago. Other than that little wish, I'd wholeheartedly recommend the TD-381.

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Oct 08, 2012 05:08 |  #3

Their WB, PixelHK makes sense. What model do you recommend fire a 550/580 v1?


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Oct 08, 2012 05:12 |  #4

Sorry, my only Canon flash is on long term loan so I really have no idea (it's a 580 EXII anyway). Conjecture: IF the 550/580 v1 has the external port then I see no reason that the TD-381 wouldn't work just fine. No experience of it though.


Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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Oct 08, 2012 08:31 |  #5

I have 2 Pixel packs and 2 550s. The combination has worked well for me with no problems.
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Oct 08, 2012 13:16 |  #6

Very happy with Pixel for more than two years.


Gear: 5D Mark III + grip, Sigma 35 1.4 Art, Sigma 50 1.4 Art, EF 70-200 2.8 L, 2x 580 EX II + Pixel King + TD-381
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Oct 08, 2012 13:28 |  #7

Whortleberry wrote in post #15093400 (external link)
Sorry, my only Canon flash is on long term loan so I really have no idea (it's a 580 EXII anyway). Conjecture: IF the 550/580 v1 has the external port then I see no reason that the TD-381 wouldn't work just fine. No experience of it though.

Since I've been using battery packs already there's a pretty good chance they have a high voltage port eh? :p

The PixelHK units seem to be getting all the votes, and that's what I was tending toward anyway, so I'll go with them. Thanks for the thoughts everyone.


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Oct 08, 2012 15:11 |  #8

Sorry, which bit of "No experience of it though" triggered the snippiness? I have never seen a 550 to my knowledge. I have never handled a 580 v1. Hence I have no experience of them. I may surmise, I may draw conclusions, but I do not know. Any fool can guess but that does nothing more than bulk up the thread without actually adding anything of value.

I would have recommended a seller of whom I have recent and current personal experience. Someone who sells to New Zealand as well as the UK, provides an excellent service, a highly competitive price and rapid dispatch to fall within the 4 week requirement. But the experience or suggestion is clearly unwelcome.


Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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Oct 08, 2012 15:47 |  #9

Whortleberry - don't worry; it's just Tim's style.


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Oct 08, 2012 15:56 |  #10

Not in the least worried, Clive. Manners maketh man. Or not, in certain cases.


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Oct 08, 2012 16:02 |  #11

The smiley I used indicates kidding/joking. It wasn't meant to be rude, and to me it doesn't read that way at all. Without the smiley I guess it could be taken that way. I apologise for any offence cause.


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