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Oct 13, 2012 17:28 |  #1

Hi all,

Here is Venus and the Moon rising over Brisbane city yesterday morning (October 13th). I took an exposure every 3 and a half minutes as the pair rose, and them stacked tham to produce this image.

Thanks for looking!

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Oct 13, 2012 21:21 |  #2

bw!
Love everything about this, have you done these before or is this your first attempt?
If done others I'd like to see them.

What lens did you use for this? Your Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 or?
3 1/2 minutes by trial and error, or is there some excel calculator to help determine spacing of the moon using such and such lens.


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Oct 13, 2012 21:50 |  #3

mtbdudex wrote in post #15118845 (external link)
bw!
Love everything about this, have you done these before or is this your first attempt?
If done others I'd like to see them.

What lens did you use for this? Your Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 or?
3 1/2 minutes by trial and error, or is there some excel calculator to help determine spacing of the moon using such and such lens.

My fail safe method is to under estimate the time between shots. I probably would have taken a shot every minute so when I got back home I could delete every 2nd or third shot to space out the moon to my liking.

Really good shot by the way, was it from Mt cootha?




  
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Oct 13, 2012 21:54 |  #4

stacked tham to produce this image

Forgot to ask, did you do a separate exposure just for the city, then multiple exposures for the sky, then in post combine them?
I'd try it this way to have as crisp/detailed city image, since no matter what with multiple exposures of foreground you will lose details due to thermal air disturbances, minor tripod shake, etc.


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Oct 13, 2012 22:51 |  #5

mtbdudex wrote in post #15118845 (external link)
bw!
Love everything about this, have you done these before or is this your first attempt?
If done others I'd like to see them.

What lens did you use for this? Your Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 or?
3 1/2 minutes by trial and error, or is there some excel calculator to help determine spacing of the moon using such and such lens.

Thanks Mike!,

My first attempt at this made APOD earlier in the year:

http://apod.nasa.gov/a​pod/ap120426.html (external link)

There's a couple more in my flickr photostrteam as well. I think this is my best result to date though. For this one I used the 15-85mm lens at 56mm, f/5.6, 400 iso and 4 sec exposure. I worked out the 3.5 minute gap by trial and error. Note that this time spacing is independent of the lens focal length - it is determined by the Earth's rotation, not the lens magnification.

I didn't do separate exposures for the foreground city and blend it in, I just stacked the individual exposures. Your idea would probably give a sharper foreground...


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My fail safe method is to under estimate the time between shots. I probably would have taken a shot every minute so when I got back home I could delete every 2nd or third shot to space out the moon to my liking.

Really good shot by the way, was it from Mt cootha?

Thanks Damien! Your right - it was from the lookout at Mt Coot-tha. You've obviously been to Brisbane before!

Cheers,
Stephen


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Oct 14, 2012 00:12 |  #6

S.R.M. wrote in post #15119070 (external link)
Thanks Mike!,

My first attempt at this made APOD earlier in the year:

http://apod.nasa.gov/a​pod/ap120426.html (external link)

Thanks Damien! Your right - it was from the lookout at Mt Coot-tha. You've obviously been to Brisbane before!

Cheers,
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Oct 14, 2012 00:16 as a reply to  @ neimad19's post |  #7

Gorgeous image...Frame and hang!


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Oct 14, 2012 05:42 |  #8

Stephan;
You've given me an neat tool/technique to add to my knowledge base, thx.

What I'll add is 2 years ago I did test strips for req'd exposure of crescent moon to show balance of reflected earthlight to reflected sunlight;

IMAGE: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-94tdJQBnG6w/TNvLH__DQWI/AAAAAAAALUM/-6GhbRBK_4s/s1024/MoonEarthlight250mmISO800b.jpg

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IMAGE: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MCwH0fOOWzM/TNvLIJjcKmI/AAAAAAAALUQ/K8GiXpLqQQ8/s1024/MoonEarthlight250mmISO800c.jpg

Seemed for my T1i ISO800, f5.6 and between 1-2 sec gave decent image, above 2 sec and the sun reflected light of the moon blew out the earth reflected light too much.

You used ISO400 @ 4 sec, I used ISO800 @ 2 sec, basically same, good to know.

btw, I see you watermark your images, do you also file/submit for copyright to them?
Doing a drop of your APOD onto Google image shows 55 websites that used it.
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Oct 15, 2012 18:14 |  #9

rrblint wrote in post #15119294 (external link)
Gorgeous image...Frame and hang!

Thanks Mark!

Cheers,
Stephen

mtbdudex wrote in post #15119846 (external link)
btw, I see you watermark your images, do you also file/submit for copyright to them?
Doing a drop of your APOD onto Google image shows 55 websites that used it.

I was under the impression that copyright automatically goes to the person who took the photo Mike. So I haven't followed up with copyright. However, I only ever upload small versions to the web, and as you said these are watermarked. I had a look at some of the sites in your search, and they seem to acknowledge me as the photographer, so that's fine with me.

Cheers,
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