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Oct 15, 2012 20:11 |  #1

I have tried several FD to EF (Optical) Infinity adapter rings in past all with poor result due to low quality of optical used.
Has any one any experience with this one,

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that as seen on pictures appears to have nice coating. I am tired of losing money on another one without recommendations.
Yes I know about Ed Mika conversion or Canon's original adapter that is exteremly rare but those are of significantly higher price.

Any input is appreciated?


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Oct 15, 2012 22:40 |  #2

No experience with this particular adapter, but a look tells me it's probably no better than the dozens of other cheap Chinese imports. I have never, ever heard of anyone with a positive experience from these cheap adapters.

You've already answered your own question, I'm afraid. To get decent performance, you'll have to go with the Mika conversion or hold out for the rare Canon adapter, neither of which are cheap.


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Oct 16, 2012 00:00 |  #3

Thanks JB.
I was afraid of that but I definitely don't want to go through another bad experience with these cheap glasses. Last one I have is turned into a macro adapter after removal of its glass...

Another question I have, open to all, has anyone tried to remove a 2x or 1.4x TC glass, say from vivitar or even Canon and then implant it into these so called macro adapter? May be worth a try at least you know these glasses are good and not China crab quality.


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Oct 16, 2012 05:02 |  #4

samsen wrote in post #15127998 (external link)
...Another question I have, open to all, has anyone tried to remove a 2x or 1.4x TC glass, say from vivitar or even Canon and then implant it into these so called macro adapter? May be worth a try at least you know these glasses are good and not China crab quality.

Teleconverters need to have the right thickness.
Because of this it is better to take for example a Canon FD teleconverter, and take the back mount for the camera away, and shorthen the tube a bit (because of different register distances FD/EF) and screw an EF mount ring there.
I have such an adapter. There are modification How To's online:
http://www.vp7.de/eosf​d/eosfd.html (external link)
But other FD teleconvertes without this prodruding element could be uses as well.


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Oct 16, 2012 18:07 |  #5

ZoneV wrote in post #15128617 (external link)
Teleconverters need to have the right thickness.
Because of this it is better to take for example a Canon FD teleconverter, and take the back mount for the camera away, and shorthen the tube a bit (because of different register distances FD/EF) and screw an EF mount ring there.
I have such an adapter. There are modification How To's online:
http://www.vp7.de/eosf​d/eosfd.html (external link)
But other FD teleconvertes without this prodruding element could be uses as well.

Thanks a lot.
Exactly what I thought and wanted.
But seems still you get a long protruding negative glasses at the end of Adapter, so can't be used with short focal length FD lenses such as 50mm or smaller. Still seems Ed Mika rules.


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Oct 16, 2012 18:16 |  #6

samsen wrote in post #15131175 (external link)
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But seems still you get a long protruding negative glasses at the end of Adapter, so can't be used with short focal length FD lenses such as 50mm or smaller. Still seems Ed Mika rules.

The other teleconverters have no protruding elements, as far as I remember. But with a 2x teleconverter many lenses are no longer interesting.
Probably some Kenko or other third party 1.4x or 1.5x teleconverter would help?

Ed Mika or Marty Castilla conversion kit could help. But both options are a bit on the expensive side - depends on the lenses.
Or you try some DIY mount conversion.I have done this several times, and many others too. And on my DIY webpage you will find links to all those conversions.
But FD-EF homemade conversion is not easy.


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Oct 16, 2012 18:22 |  #7

Thanks again.
Yes I saw a converted 50mm 1.2 from an Indonesian seller on ebay.
He had removed the metallic portion of the 50mm lens, then glued! a 42mm screw to EOS ring directly with Epoxy to the back of lens and was claiming to have a solid union...
It may work for a light say F2.8 28mm but not sure about a heavy lens.
I have already ordered a couple of screw to EOS adapters to experiment in various forms including last one.
Do you have any experiment with epoxy rather than fine but difficult treading of adapter ring to back of non EOS manual lenses?


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Oct 17, 2012 15:57 |  #8

I made a short manual extension tube with 8mm thickness. There I glued the front an back part together. But the parts are machined to fit with very small tolerances, and good gluing contact.
With that extension tube I can hold with no problem my homemade EF converted Canon FD 300/2.8 lens. It weight 2,3 kg.
I can even hold this combination horizontal - holding it only on the camera body.

There are different ways to convert, and different ways to glue :-)


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Oct 17, 2012 17:45 as a reply to  @ ZoneV's post |  #9

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I bought my adapter back in 2007, it was made by Hoya and has served me very well since.

I have taken thousands of pictures using a variety of FD lenses on my 350D, had many failures but also many very good ones, like anything else it is a learning curve.
I have been involved in many of the questions asked about these adapters on this site since 2007, just done a search on FD to EOS adapter and it shows 7 pages of questions, it's a well thumbed topic.

Here is a few of the early threads I was involved in and they will show you the adapter I use and some of the results from it.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=749158

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=749158

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=916827


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Oct 17, 2012 17:47 |  #10

I bought one that didn't work, I just bought different lenses, im not to into the look that FD lenses produce.


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Oct 17, 2012 18:40 |  #11

downtofilm. wrote in post #15135509 (external link)
im not to into the look that FD lenses produce.

What look is that? My FD lenses always looked pretty normal to me. :confused:


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Oct 17, 2012 20:19 |  #12

John:
Thanks pal.
Checked the link but its too basic for me.
I am interested to see some of your own Best and definitely Worst images taken with Hoya adapter + FD. Can you please leave a link? if you have already posted them on line.
I remember that Hoya adapter was two and half to three times the price of cheap chines adapter but still quite inexpensive compare to real deal, Canon's rare adapter. Are you able to use it with wide angle lenses? I know it is not a good idea due to 1.3x mag factor that ruins the concept of wide angle but just for the sake of it want to know if physically it fits to back of small lenses.

Downtofilm: I am totally with Mike. Some of FD lenses are among the best Canon ever made. Its pity not to give them a chance to show their capabilities in digital life.


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Oct 18, 2012 14:24 as a reply to  @ samsen's post |  #13

Samsen, the only photo's I have online at present are the one's in the links of my previous post, however your post set me thinking that I should get out and use this adapter (£17.99 on E-Bay by the way) with all my FD lenses (over 20) and put the results in a gallery somewhere.

This can be my next project.

The worst results I have had using this setup have been mostly with the lens wide open, as others have found, the best is when stopped down a bit.

I consider using the adapter as half way house, I can use all these superb lenses on either my film cameras (A1,F1n,T90) or the 350D.

Yes the adapter does fit to the back of wide angle lenses, Fd is Fd whatever the size of lens, my widest is the Tokina 17mm F3.5 and that works ok.


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Oct 18, 2012 20:58 |  #14

Thank a lot John. That was quit informative.

Please try not to forget recording and presenting your F stop setting as there is no way to record it on EXIF otherwise, if you are going to perform the said project that I am sure will be very useful to many. Way to go and waiting to see your result hopefully by Monday, if the weekend's weather is favorable.


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