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What if you actually wanted to show facial scars?

 
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Oct 15, 2012 20:54 |  #1

I'm normally trying to find the most flattering light for portraits, but I've been asked to photograph the scars on a woman's face for a court case. So I want to find the right hard lighting that clearly shows the facial scars. I guess bare bulb on a strobe would work, but I was also thinking about using the 27" deep octa box with silver lining with a silver deflector and no diffusers to bring out specular highlights. It's probably not necessary to overthink this and do anything elaborate. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with something like this and can tell me what sort of lighting is typically used. Thanks.


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Oct 15, 2012 20:59 |  #2

You want the light source to be as small as possible...more specularity.

You want the light to go across the scar, to throw more of the scarred area into shadow, to emphasize the change in texture of the skin.


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Oct 15, 2012 21:06 |  #3

I think that relatively flat lighting would be desired and would be more concerned with just getting the details than trying to create mood with my lighting. Some sort of ambient light and an on-camera flash seems more appropriate here.


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Oct 15, 2012 21:28 |  #4

Read this, to emphasize the scarring! http://photo.net …a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0019yA (external link)


"By shining a light at a strong angle, you will create shadows that highlight anything extending above the surface of the skin. Also, use a small (hard) light source to get well-defined shadows. If you want the rest of the person to look good, you need to be a bit careful with hard light - pay a lot of attention to the shadows cast on the face and body."

Flat lighting is NOT the key!


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Oct 15, 2012 21:33 |  #5

http://www.shutterbug.​com …g-flattering-your-subject (external link) gives this advice...

"Look for scars, pimples, or similar facial imperfections that are accentuated or minimized by your lighting treatment. A scar or pimple on the opposite side of the face from the main light may cast a shadow, thus exaggerating the imperfection. If the scar or pimple is on the same side as the main light, the light will most likely not cast a shadow, making it less noticeable. "


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Oct 15, 2012 21:55 |  #6

Wilt wrote in post #15127479 (external link)
Read this, to emphasize the scarring! http://photo.net …a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0019yA (external link)

"By shining a light at a strong angle, you will create shadows that highlight anything extending above the surface of the skin. Also, use a small (hard) light source to get well-defined shadows. If you want the rest of the person to look good, you need to be a bit careful with hard light - pay a lot of attention to the shadows cast on the face and body.
Flat lighting is NOT the key!"

I think the last poster in that link has it right.


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Oct 15, 2012 22:04 |  #7

That comment "Flat lighting is not the key" is mine...I accidentally put the quote after my comment.


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Oct 15, 2012 22:06 |  #8

Wilt wrote in post #15127622 (external link)
That comment "Flat lighting is not the key" is mine...I accidentally put the quote after my comment.

Yeah, I saw that in your initial post before you changed it. When you were going to reference paragraph 10.3 of something or another.


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Oct 15, 2012 22:17 |  #9

doidinho wrote in post #15127632 (external link)
Yeah, I saw that in your initial post before you changed it. When you were going to reference paragraph 10.3 of something or another.

Yeah, unfortunately I forgot to add the link to the article, then I could find that artical a second time!


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Oct 15, 2012 22:21 |  #10

If you want to show texture the best way to do that is to rake harsh light across the surface thus creating deep shadows (texture) and the elusion of depth on the surface. See Wilts post.




  
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Oct 15, 2012 22:21 |  #11

Wilt wrote in post #15127672 (external link)
Yeah, unfortunately I forgot to add the link to the article, then I could find that artical a second time!

Unless of course it was another link to a shutterbug forum thread or Shutterbug how to article. In that case it could be fortunate.


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Oct 15, 2012 22:25 |  #12

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If you want to show texture the best way to do that is to rake harsh light across the surface thus creating deep shadows (texture) and the elusion of depth on the surface. See Wilts post.

You mean illusion?

I'm thinking that suggesting to try to "create illusion" when photographing for a court case may be poor advice.


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Oct 15, 2012 22:29 |  #13

All photographs are illusions.

Flat lighting you take away all depth thus creating the illusion of no depth.




  
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Oct 15, 2012 22:30 |  #14

doidinho wrote in post #15127707 (external link)
You mean illusion?

I'm thinking that suggesting to try to "create illusion" when photographing for a court case may be poor advice.

But neither do you want to hide the scarring with flat light, either!


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Oct 16, 2012 09:47 |  #15

Thanks for all the pointers. It sounds like I might want to try short side and broad side lighting since it's easy enough to do that, and just provide all the images to the attorney who hired me. But a small, hard light seems to be the ticket. So do you think a 7" reflector would serve my purpose better than the 27" deep octa with silver deflector and interior?


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