Well, the computer I'm on right now is a 3.0 with 2 gigs, and along with everything else running (about 8 other programs and 5 instances of IE), CS2 still runs like butter.
RonaldS.Jr. Prodigal "Brick" Layer More info | Jan 07, 2006 09:02 | #16 Well, the computer I'm on right now is a 3.0 with 2 gigs, and along with everything else running (about 8 other programs and 5 instances of IE), CS2 still runs like butter. Mac users swear by their computers. PC users swear at theirs.
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picard Goldmember 1,996 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Canada More info | Jan 08, 2006 15:49 | #17 Your PC needs another 512MB of RAM. window XP is a memory hog. Canon 1DM4,7D, Rebel XT
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dpastern Cream of the Crop 13,765 posts Likes: 3 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland, Australia More info | Jan 08, 2006 17:59 | #18 Permanent banOf course, you could ditch Windows and run GNU/Linux, and run Photoshop from Wine. Funny thing is Microsoft Windows is slow, and bloated and handles memory very poorly. Unixes use RAM much more aggressively (and better) imho. What really makes me laugh is that Wine seems to run most Windows applications faster than they do natively in Microsoft Windows!
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picard Goldmember 1,996 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Canada More info | Jan 08, 2006 21:50 | #19 I would like to correct dpastern regarding SCSI HD. SCSI HD are expensive for home user. S-ATA drive are the fastest compare to SCSI. SCSI are used strictly for high end servers that require raid setup. S-ATA drive is the new standard for all motherboards on the market. S-ATA HD have 16MB ram cache on board which speed up data read and write tremendously in conjunction with more RAM for your motherboard. Canon 1DM4,7D, Rebel XT
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dpastern Cream of the Crop 13,765 posts Likes: 3 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland, Australia More info | Permanent banWithout appearing to be rude picard, I'm quite right in what I've posted - SCSI drives are faster than SATA and SATA II drives. They're also more robust, most brands offering a 5 year warranty I might add. Yes, they are more expensive I do admit, but they most certainly outperform ATA and SATA drives. This is an Australian site (and overpriced I might add), but it'll give you some idea:
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jfrancho Cream of the Crop 6,341 posts Joined Feb 2005 More info | Jan 09, 2006 08:18 | #21 I considered SCSI drives for my system, but SATA offered greater storage for the money, and a minor decrease in read/write speed. I'll admit, though, that read write wasn't a major concern since my system is set up RAID 1 (mirrored). Storage space - with decent performance - suited my needs, and SATA along with dual core processing, 4 GB RAM and a fast FSB was a cost effective solution.
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UnDo Member 38 posts Joined Aug 2005 More info | Jan 10, 2006 00:39 | #22 I've been building pc's for 10 years or more... Here's a few tips for a faster CS2. Setup you memory in a dual channel configuration(most modern motherborads support this). Min of 1 gig of system memory on XP. Go with a 7200rpm sata or sataII, scsi is just not going to make that much of a diffrence in CS2 to justifiy the price.. Plus you could allways pick up a WD Raptor 10,000rpm 75gig drive for $130.00 .... that just screams FAST!!! Or add 2 in a striped raid formation.... Now your flying. Use the raptor for your system drive and move your pictures to your old system drive. Also... make sure you set your scatch disks to a non system drive in CS2... seems to help. As far as graphics cards go, any out by nvidia or ati in the last year or so will be fine... Graphic cards really don't help that much... unless your gaming or doing some type of video editing. Photo editing is mostly about the cpu speed, cpu cache size, FSB speed, and how fast your memory is. Just a few suggestions based on my experience's. The machines I build are for pure raw performance... Basically... to play games... lol Vince
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Transportithere Goldmember 1,092 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Puget Sound, U.S.A. More info | Jan 10, 2006 00:46 | #23 On my PC. It came with 256 RAM. I purchased 1 gig. I installed it and night became day. POTN is a wonderful source of information.
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dpastern Cream of the Crop 13,765 posts Likes: 3 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland, Australia More info | Permanent banSetup you memory in a dual channel configuration(most modern motherborads support this). Yes, you could, but as I said, Microsoft Windows usage of memory leaves a lot to be desired. It will typically avoid using system RAM and go straight to your hard disk cache. No other operating system I've ever used does it this way. Just because the bios on the motherboard supports it, doesn't mean Windows will take advantage of it Plus you could allways pick up a WD Raptor 10,000rpm 75gig drive for $130.00 Yes, for the price, that's a very good option. If price isn't an option, SCSI will outperform both ata/sata and sata II. Or add 2 in a striped raid formation yes, you could do that, but you still have issues with bottlenecks - if reading and writing to the drive is slow, running a raid will only partially help. It's like putting a bandaid on an arm that's been cut off to stem the bleeding. It helps a bit, but doesn't solve the problem! But yes, it'll help a bit. Graphic cards really don't help that much Yup, totally agree with you here. Most modern cards are geared for 3D and gaming, not 2D performance. If you want really good 2D performance, go ATI. But, be warned, they are very expensive cards. [melkor@melkor:~]$ cat /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 514868 kB MemFree: 18280 kB Buffers: 20064 kB Cached: 145564 kB SwapCached: 20 kB Active: 368764 kB Inactive: 47856 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree: 0 kB LowTotal: 514868 kB LowFree: 18280 kB SwapTotal: 321292 kB SwapFree: 317040 kB Dirty: 536 kB Writeback: 0 kB Mapped: 331072 kB Slab: 67004 kB CommitLimit: 578724 kB Committed_AS: 686112 kB PageTables: 2684 kB VmallocTotal: 516016 kB VmallocUsed: 24908 kB VmallocChunk: 489900 kB See how it uses all of the memory? Compare that to Windows...RAM is ALWAYS going to be faster than disk cache. ALWAYS. Also note how much swap drive I have, and how much is free.
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martook Senior Member 396 posts Joined May 2005 Location: Sweden More info | Jan 10, 2006 15:29 | #25 Dude, just forget about everthing people are writing here for now and concentrate on one thing - upgrade the memory. Either contact the place where you got your computer in the first place, they should know what you need to upgrade it, or see if you have a manual that has any information about the RAM you need.
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EOS_JD Goldmember 2,925 posts Likes: 2 Joined Dec 2005 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland More info | Jan 13, 2006 09:55 | #26 You will see a huge difference in speed with more than one scratch disk (I've 4 - final one is source drive). best if you can spread your scratch disk over a few hard drives but even a one hard drive will make a difference All My Gear
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jfrancho Cream of the Crop 6,341 posts Joined Feb 2005 More info | Jan 13, 2006 12:36 | #27 I'd think that would depend on drive configurations. I don't think that a seperate EIDE would be faster than a SATA system drive, as long as there was enough free space. Could be wrong though.
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