Mnbruce Goldmember More info | Oct 21, 2012 01:52 | #1 I have only had one digital camera, which is the 30D which I bought on the day it was released and I have loved the camera. For a few reasons it is time for me to get another camera and I am looking at the 60D. I have thought about the 7D but for my purpose I don't really think I need the full frame. I guess I am just wonering if the image quality is equal in the two cameras and is the IQ of the 60D markedly better than my 30D? Thanks.
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Snydremark my very own Lightrules moment More info | Oct 21, 2012 02:01 | #2 A) The 7D is still a crop sensor body; not FF - Eric S.: My Birds/Wildlife
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Oct 21, 2012 02:32 | #3 Mnbruce wrote in post #15148921  I have only had one digital camera, which is the 30D which I bought on the day it was released and I have loved the camera. For a few reasons it is time for me to get another camera and I am looking at the 60D. I have thought about the 7D but for my purpose I don't really think I need the full frame. I guess I am just wonering if the image quality is equal in the two cameras and is the IQ of the 60D markedly better than my 30D? Thanks. From actual use, the Canon 60D has been proven as a pleasantly competent unit that easily generates images such as these.
As with all DSLR's, a Canon 60D will not perform miracles, but it will accurately capture what it is tasked to capture, with no shortcomings. If your true goals are to get pictures, a 60D is a good choice.
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killwilly Senior Member  More info | Oct 21, 2012 02:57 | #4 DC Fan wrote in post #15148961 From actual use, the Canon 60D has been proven as a pleasantly competent unit that easily generates images such as these.
As with all DSLR's, a Canon 60D will not perform miracles, but it will accurately capture what it is tasked to capture, with no shortcomings. If your true goals are to get pictures, a 60D is a good choice.
Alan. flickr
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JamesP Goldmember  More info | Oct 21, 2012 08:13 | #5 If it were me, the main consideration would be which is more useful to you, the articulating screen of the 60D or the toggle switch of the 7D. For my own use, I chose the 7D, just because I found the layout of the controls much easier to manipulate. My friend has a 60D and her pictures are every bit as good as mine. 1Dx - 5DIII - 40D - Canon 24-70LII, 100L macro, 135L, 16-35L, 70-200 f4 and 100-400L lenses
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alquimista Cream of the Crop  More info | Oct 21, 2012 08:28 | #6 the 60D is a very capable camera for the money, has a good sensor, and the the articulating screen is a plus, la costura de Dios
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Oct 21, 2012 10:14 | #7 killwilly wrote in post #15148989 I'm glad you posted these and in particular #1. I wanted to see how the 60D and the 150-500 performed together. What lens did you use for #2, the exif data is missing? All three are very good, many thanks.  The hot rod image came through a Canon 18-200mm image stabilizer lens (and it was framed through the articulating screen using Live View to ease the lower angle where the camera was held at waist level). The bicyclist was captured through a non-stabilized Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX II lens.
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Oct 21, 2012 10:18 | #8 Thanks for the comments, advice and the very nice sample images! Snydremark wrote in post #15148932 A) The 7D is still a crop sensor body; not FF Oops! Makes me look a bit stupid.  B) There's not reason you shouldn't be perfectly happy with the images you can get from the 60D; they're (the 60D and 7D) both using the same image sensor Good to know. C) The 60D will probably produce better images than your 30D; but the differentiating factor's going to be you, rather than the body. Correct. As is always the case the person behind the camera is the main factor in the quality of the image. I guess I was just wondering if I did my part correctly and took the same exact shot with both cameras would I see a difference in the IQ. Do the 10 extra megapixels add sharpnesss or detail? I have always been satisfied with the IQ of the 30D.
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mondayshift Goldmember  2,301 posts Likes: 730 Joined Apr 2011 Location: NC More info | Oct 21, 2012 10:21 | #9 the 60D is a great camera. “Sucking at something is the first step towards being sorta good at something.”
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Oct 21, 2012 10:23 | #10 alquimista wrote in post #15149429 the 60D is a very capable camera for the money, has a good sensor, and the the articulating screen is a plus, I'm curious what the main advantage to this type of screen is?
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HaroldC3 Goldmember More info | Oct 21, 2012 10:32 | #11 What you are getting with the 60D is the ability to crop more, newer technology which equates to better noise handling and possibly AF speed. You are also getting liveview and of course the swivel LCD.
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Oct 21, 2012 10:48 | #12 HaroldC3 wrote in post #15149779 What you are getting with the 60D is the ability to crop more, newer technology which equates to better noise handling and possibly AF speed. You are also getting liveview and of course the swivel LCD. I went back and looked at some of the images I had taken with the 30D back in 2007 and I must say the images look great. So I doubt you will see much difference at lower ISOs. Thanks much! I guess the cropping factor and the higher ISO would be the main selling points for me. I'm not much of a video guy, but do many of you use it often?
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Oct 21, 2012 11:08 | #13 Mnbruce wrote in post #15149763 I'm curious what the main advantage to this type of screen is? The articulating screen, when combined with Live View, liberates a photographer from needing to hold the camera at face level and frame each image through the reflex viewfinder. Images can use different angles such as these where the camera was placed at ground level, the image was framed through the articulating screen, and there was no reason to get on the ground.
It should also be noted that the combination of the articulating screen and Live View allows a DSLR to be operated in the same manner as medium format cameras with waist-level viewfinders such as Hasselblads and Rollieflexes. These cameras were in use as hand-held devices for decades before 35mm film and DSLR's were fashionable.
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Snydremark my very own Lightrules moment More info | Oct 21, 2012 11:25 | #14 I shoot the 7D all the way up to ISO 3200 when the situation calls for it, with no fears; given that the sensors are the same, I wouldn't be afraid to do the same with the 60 either.  Red Squirrel-8964 by Guideon72, on FlickrISO 2500:  Downy Woodpecker-3527 by Guideon72, on FlickrISO 3200:  JuanitaBayBirds-4464-2 by Guideon72, on FlickrThe other nice thing about moving to the higher resolution, higher density sensor (I previously shot the 40D), was that cropping is more available, but also less necessary with the new sensor. Or, more accurately, when cropping is needed, it isn't necessary to crop as MUCH. Best of luck with the new camera! - Eric S.: My Birds/Wildlife
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JohnfromPA Cream of the Crop 11,258 posts Likes: 1527 Joined May 2003 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania More info | Oct 21, 2012 11:25 | #15 I see you live in the States so search out here the Canon Loyalty Program. Keep the 30D as a backup and find some cheap Canon P&S to trade in on a refurbished 60D body. Bottom line will be around $640 more or less depending on the taxes. Virtually brand new camera with 14-day exchange and 90-day warranty.
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