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60D "ramdomly" won't fire

 
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Oct 26, 2012 11:39 |  #1

I have a 60D, no clue how many clicks. Its about 2 years old. I've had several (3-4) instances where suddenly the focus will lock but the camera simply will not take a shot. I've got a sandisk ultra extreme and I ruled out writing to the card yesterday.

All I have to do is cycle the power and it will then function normally.

Any ideas? Can a flash cause this? Considering I've had my camera fire before the flash is charged, I don't think that is the problem. Due to the lack of frequency, its not something I can troubleshoot.

Basically the camera functions normally for a number of shots, and suddenly I will get autofocus lock, push the shutter the rest of the way and nothing happens. Try again, focus locks and beeps, again, nothing. Flip it off, wait a second, flip it back on, works normally.




  
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Oct 26, 2012 11:40 |  #2

I had a similar ish thing happen with my old 30D, the shutter button had to be replaced.


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Oct 26, 2012 11:42 |  #3

I had the same problem on my 30D a few years ago. Canon replaced the shutter switching mechanism. it's an electrical switch, and I guess it just failed. It may be as simple as cleaning a contact. I'd call Canon and see what they have to say. They've always been nice to me when something unexpected occurred...

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Oct 26, 2012 11:51 |  #4

Could this be a low light situation? If you are shooting Tv and the camera is calling for f2.8 but the lens only goes to f4, I don't think the camera will fire. As I call there is a setting for the 60D to override this but without my camera or the book not sure where.




  
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Oct 26, 2012 11:57 |  #5

Same thing has happened w/ my 60D. had it for about a year now & has happened about 3 or 4 times too. No clue what's doing it. But power cycle fixes it.


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Oct 26, 2012 12:24 |  #6

similar situation, mine did the same when i had it but i was actually hit the back button AF and it wouldn't fire. i was using a handgrip at the time and i dint realize it until i bought my second 60D and had the same problem.

verify you arent hitting any buttons then send it in to get fixed.


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Oct 26, 2012 12:28 |  #7

It could be the shutter button, obviously... but it could also be the safety thing... let me check to see what it's called. OK, it's called the safety switch, found in the menu under the camera icon, second from the right, then under "exposure" (C:Fn 1) number 6. You have two options: 0: disable or 1: enable under TV and AV.

Page 253 of the Canon 60D manual.


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Oct 26, 2012 12:28 |  #8

I had this issue with my 50D. I did the isopropyl trick (google it) and it has worked. Eventually the issue resurfaces, but another treatment of the isopropyl trick and it's fine for a while. I do not have the funds to replace the shutter button at this current moment.


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Oct 26, 2012 13:14 |  #9

I don't have 60D, but some cameras also have "trap focus" feature which will not let the shutter fire until the focus is achieved (this is actually quite handy for some types of photography, such as manual focus macro). Most of the cameras always do this automatically in One Shot, the green LED in the viewfinder blinks to show that focus wasn't achieved. I think some models have an override setting, you can set so the camera will go ahead and take the shot anyway. Or use AI Servo. You can test this by trying to focus on something that's closer than your lens' minimum focus distance. Just set the camera to One Shot first. It then should work in AF or even if the lens' AF switch is turned off and you are manual focusing.

I don't know if the 60D uses the same type of shutter release button as the 50D and 40D. But, yes, as noted in a couple previous responses, those are known to get "gunked up" from finger oils and such over time, can be "flood cleaned" with isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol... carefully... without disassembling the camera. Disassembly and a proper cleaning would be better, if possible. Usually the switch just needs cleaning, not replacement (though Canon service dept. would probably just replace it in any case).

Third possibility is some sort of lock that prevents incorrect exposure, though I'm skeptical about this. Usually it's a "Safety Shift", which when enabled will override your ISO or other settings if too low or high for a shot, but will go ahead and take the shot. I.e., it doesn't prevent taking a shot, even when Safety Shift is off... but maybe it's different on 60D.

You didn't mention what exposure mode you had set. Some of the highly automated settings (i.e., the Mode Dial icons such as running man, mountain, etc.) go way beyond simple exposure settings and lock certain things on the camera.... maybe one of those is causing an exposure or focus lock.

Also check that the battery door and the memory card cover are securely latched in place. There are micro switches on those on most Canon cameras, to prevent the camera from working if they are ajar. Sometimes dirt or whatever can get in and cause those switches to jam, too. Usually the entire camera is dead, though, if this is the fault.

There's also a micro switch under one of the springs in the flash mount, that sometimes gets stuck so the camera thinks there is a flash mounted. Usually the symptom is that the built-in flash won't pop up and an error message is displayed, but if the camera is waiting for a flash to recharge, and there is none in the hot shoe, it might prevent the camera from firing. If this micro switch gets stuck, it's often posssible to coax back with a wooden toothpick or the point of an Xacto knife. Also might need to slightly expand the spring to prevent it from stopping the micro switch from fully opening. This is just a possibility.

Turning the camera off and back on clearing the problem is a bit of a clue... Though I'm not sure of what. It's almost as if the camera is in some other mode that doesn't allow images to be taken, such as accidentally having set mirror lockup (in which you have to press the shutter release once to lift the mirror, then a second time to take the shot).

And, if removing the rechargeable battery(ies) and then reinserting fixes the problem temporarily, it might be a low voltage issue that can be cured buy carefully cleaning the battery contacts (just wipe with a clean rag dampened with a couple drops of isopropyl/rubbing alcohol). If using a battery grip, also clean the grip to camera contacts, as well as the battery to grip contacts, and make sure the grip is snugly fitted to the camera.


Fnally, use the same clean rag/alcohol technique to clean the lens to camera contacts... It might be that the two aren't communicating with each other properly.


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Oct 26, 2012 13:26 |  #10

A couple of things happened to me that may be causing this:

1) Shutter button (happened on a new 40d), only happened sometimes but fairly consistently.
2) Make sure you're not pressing that little button near the lens mount (Depth of Field something), sometimes my 5DII won't fire because my finger is pushing the button - took a while to figure that one out.
3) Are you sure it locked focus?


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Oct 26, 2012 15:13 |  #11

I also face this problem, reselecting the focus point seem to make it fire again...a bug maybe...




  
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Oct 26, 2012 16:46 |  #12

Alan,

Thank you for a very thorough and well thought-out troubleshooting strategy. I remember when my 60D wouldn't fire one time and I always thought it was the safety switch but after reading your post, I suspect the camera wasn't able to attain focus. I was just doing a practice shot in our living room when it was already fairly dark.


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Oct 26, 2012 17:10 |  #13

I am now surprised that so many people have had problem with 30D.
Mine suddenly died and wouldn't turn on again. Canon changed that same shutter switch by they charged me $300 plus return shipping that really hurt me on that time as I just missed the warranty period by a month.


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Oct 26, 2012 18:20 |  #14

Buchinger wrote in post #15172075 (external link)
I have a 60D, no clue how many clicks. Its about 2 years old. I've had several (3-4) instances where suddenly the focus will lock but the camera simply will not take a shot. I've got a sandisk ultra extreme and I ruled out writing to the card yesterday.

All I have to do is cycle the power and it will then function normally.

Any ideas? Can a flash cause this? Considering I've had my camera fire before the flash is charged, I don't think that is the problem. Due to the lack of frequency, its not something I can troubleshoot.

Basically the camera functions normally for a number of shots, and suddenly I will get autofocus lock, push the shutter the rest of the way and nothing happens. Try again, focus locks and beeps, again, nothing. Flip it off, wait a second, flip it back on, works normally.

Are you saying it happens mid burst ?? It's not stopping because the buffer is full and the camera is writing data to the card........... Just a thought, as your post says the 'camera functions normally for a couple of shots' then you have issues.


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Oct 26, 2012 18:51 |  #15

I've had a similar problem with my 5D3. If I am trying to rapidly obtain focus on a very dark subject (low light) by pressing the shutter button a few times within a few seconds, the camera will simply freeze up, even if I wait for minutes, nothing returns. Every button and every function remains dead. Turning camera off and on again is the only solution. I haven't called Canon on this yet.


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