thanks for the neat tips! i'll have to try out those homemade diffusers. if anyone has pictures using different flash techniques then post them here =).
Dec 31, 2005 12:45 | #16 thanks for the neat tips! i'll have to try out those homemade diffusers. if anyone has pictures using different flash techniques then post them here =). Canon 20D
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Titus213 Cream of the Crop  More info | Dec 31, 2005 13:28 | #17 Congratulations on the new equipment, it will make a huge difference in your flash photography as you've already seen. John has the next solution with a bounce card banded to the head and a 45 degree tilt rather than straight up. It creates wonderful light shadows that help define the faces. Dave
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CyberDyneSystems Admin (type T-2000)  More info | Feihung08 wrote: How about aiming the 580 "directly" at you and comparing it to the onboard flash? Because I'm sure if the onboard flash could rotate it would also produce a (happier) better shot as well. But it can't so what's the point? GEAR LIST
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me  34,091 posts Likes: 45 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Dec 31, 2005 14:13 | #19 I rigged up a flash card that's large and obvious yet very effective:
Sample shots:
It's made of 2 sheets of 110lb paper with household aluminum foil sandwiched in between. The belt is made of a cardboard mailer stripped down to size. The card is hot glued to the belt for security and stiffness. I've since added a long piece of thin white shim to the back to give it a spine so it won't flop back and forth and degrade the small neck (not shown). Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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CyberDyneSystems Admin (type T-2000) More info | Dec 31, 2005 14:16 | #20 The 580 is an awesome tool,. I've yet to be let down by it.. GEAR LIST
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JohnCollins Senior Member  539 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Philadelphia area More info | Dec 31, 2005 14:20 | #21 CDI-INK
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Feihung08 Senior Member  542 posts Joined Feb 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA More info | CyberDyneSystems wrote: But it can't so what's the point? If the reason the 580 looks better is becuase it can do something the onboard can't.. why then not use that ability? Yes! What?!?! Canon 80D | Tamron 28-75mm | Canon 50mm 1.8 | Canon 430 EX | LensBaby 2.0
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me 34,091 posts Likes: 45 Joined Dec 2005 More info | JohnCollins wrote: CDI-INK Love the shot of your kid with his new toys. That thing works! I'm curious why you chose to mount it on the short edge of the flash head instead of the way I did mine. It gets great results, so I'm curious as to your thinking. Thanks. John There's no technical reason for it...it just lets me switch between portrait and landscape modes quickly and easily. It's already sideways so I press the button and flip it. And the card stays in a good position all the time with no need to spin it or mess with it once its on. Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me 34,091 posts Likes: 45 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Feihung08 wrote: Yes! What?!?! Did you have your coffee yet?  Do you need me to clarify my point more? Or does anyone really care? I just would also like to see a more "oranges to oranges" comparison. The point is there is no point in comparing direct flash with direct flash. You don't typically buy an external flash just so you have something bigger to aim directly. You buy it so you can bounce it and alter & therefore improve the results. Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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JohnCollins Senior Member 539 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Philadelphia area More info | cdi-ink.com wrote: There's no technical reason for it...it just lets me switch between portrait and landscape modes quickly and easily. It's already sideways so I press the button and flip it. And the card stays in a good position all the time with no need to spin it or mess with it once its on. Now that is brilliant in it's simplicity! I never would have thought of that. Thanks!
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tommykjensen Cream of the Crop More info | Feihung08 wrote: Yes! What?!?! Did you have your coffee yet? Do you need me to clarify my point more? Or does anyone really care? I just would also like to see a more "oranges to oranges" comparison. But what is the point of testing the onboard flash against a 580 if You do not use the capabilities the 580 has? If You don't use the capabilities the 580 have then why even bother to buy it? EDITING OF MY PHOTOS IS NOT ALLOWED
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CurtisN Master Flasher  19,129 posts Likes: 11 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Northern Illinois, US More info | CyberDyneSystems wrote: Also,. at times you want a softer look,. flip the "ultra wide" panel over the flash.. it works like a diffuser. I always use the wide angle deflector if I'm bouncing it, with an index card attached. My theory is, 1) It will direct more light onto the card, which in turn will provide more direct illumination, and 2) it will light up a larger area of the ceiling, providing a softer, more natural look. "If you're not having fun, your pictures will reflect that." - Joe McNally
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CyberDyneSystems Admin (type T-2000) More info | Dec 31, 2005 15:36 | #28 I don't know Curtiss,. I'll have to try it,. sounds like a good theory GEAR LIST
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me 34,091 posts Likes: 45 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Dec 31, 2005 15:36 | #29 I would do that with my Lightsphere. Dunno if the same would hold true for a bounce card. I imagine it would. Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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RonaldS.Jr. Prodigal "Brick" Layer  More info | tommykjensen wrote: If You don't use the capabilities the 580 have then why even bother to buy it?
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That's all I can come up with. Just better coverage.