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Trading 180L macro for 100L macro

 
Simpleboy
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Nov 01, 2012 18:32 |  #1

Im just a hobbyist, and I do much more flowers and such than insects, so working distances isnt a concern, but being able to just go out with the camera and not take a tripod or flash is a big plus.

Am I crazy?
Has anyone done the swap? liked it? regretted it?

Looking forward to responses.
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Nov 01, 2012 18:50 |  #2

The 100mm has better IQ, and IS. Sell the 180mm to a weightlifter and get the lightweight 100mm.




  
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Nov 01, 2012 18:53 |  #3

I hope it isn't a straight off deal, the 180 L is worth more used than a 100 L.


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Nov 01, 2012 19:47 as a reply to  @ vsg28's post |  #4

how about getting the Sigma 150 OS? It's about the same price as the 100L, and the working distance is nearly the same as 180, and you get OS


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Nov 01, 2012 20:54 as a reply to  @ cancan7's post |  #5

If it is an even trade, you are losing out. And IMO the 100L does not have better IQ than the 180L. I would be way more than happy to make an even trade of my 100L for a 180L.

(Other than the price difference) Based on your description of need, I think you would probably be happier with the 100L. Just don't trade even.


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Nov 01, 2012 22:24 |  #6

Spoke to my local camera shop, on trade, they want moeny going their way. So I dont think thats happening.

So i guess if I go ahead, ill be selling online first, then using those funds to buy my new lens.
Still pondering, so if any who have used both lenses, please chip in.




  
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Nov 02, 2012 00:08 |  #7

I agree with the previous comment. The 100L sounds way more suited to your needs. The 180L is a much harder to use lens. No comparison.


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Nov 02, 2012 01:49 |  #8

nightcat wrote in post #15196357 (external link)
The 100mm has better IQ.....

IQ is subjective and I disagree that the 100L is better.....granted it's sharper but the diffuse background can be a little too fussy if you don't want to totally obliterate it. The 180L is capable of keeping the subject in context and giving a much more appealing (to me) bokeh.

Simpleboy wrote in post #15197029 (external link)
......Still pondering, so if any who have used both lenses, please chip in.

I use both and use them differently. I think the 100L is a more spontaneous lens and certainly easier to use. The 180L is more suited to thought out and prepared shots where you have some control of the situation and can manipulate the background. That said, if you're heavily biased towards flowers, the Zeiss 100/2 is peerless (IMHO).

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Nov 02, 2012 02:12 |  #9

The 100 does not have better IQ than the 180. 180 is the best macro lens Canon make in my opinion and IS is not that usefull for macro work. The 180 allows for a greater distance and with a decent shutter speed works far better than the 100 i had both never used the 100 after i got the 180 so sold it.




  
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Nov 02, 2012 02:14 |  #10

Simpleboy wrote in post #15197029 (external link)
Spoke to my local camera shop, on trade, they want moeny going their way. So I dont think thats happening.

That's crazy! Do they want your first born too?


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Nov 02, 2012 07:08 |  #11

I do more macro than anything else, but I have never used the 180, so take this with a grain of salt.

First, it matters what body you are shooting with. If you are shooting at minimum working distance, the body does not matter, but if you are not, you will have more reach (hence less need for a longer lens) on a crop body. I shoot macro with a crop body, so take that into account.

I do a LOT of flowers, and I would not consider a 180 for those. The extra working distance is not particularly useful with flowers, and the difficulty in handholding a 180mm--particularly with a crop body--would be a real problem for me. I shoot some flowers with a 100L, but I actually do more with an EF-S 60mm macro. For some flower work, I find the shorter working distance helpful.

Bugs are a whole different issue. I shoot bugs a good bit as well, and sometimes for that, I would like a longer focal length. However, 100 does fine.

IS is not that usefull for macro work

Yes and no. Conventional IS compensates for angular motion and is pretty much useless when you are near minimum working distance. However, the hybrid IS on the 100L compensates also for motion parallel to the sensor, which matters a great deal for macro work. I find it buys me about 1.5 stops at minimum working distance. Also, if you want to use the lens as a telephoto as well, the IS on the 100 works as conventional IS as well, giving you 4 stops at distance.


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Nov 02, 2012 07:42 |  #12

I owned a 180L - for about a week, long before the 100L came out....
for doing macro stuff, it was awesome...
for shooting anything else, AF speed was slow to go from one end of the range to the other

it was too big and heavy in my bag, so I rarely ever took it with me, and then sold it and never looked back...
anytime I needed a macro, I've gone with macro rings, and recently bought the 100L, and I've never once thought about the 180L


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Nov 02, 2012 07:43 |  #13

FEChariot wrote in post #15197565 (external link)
That's crazy! Do they want your first born too?

that's not that crazy an idea!
think of the money you'd save on diapers and food and clothing....


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Nov 02, 2012 08:16 |  #14

SMP_Homer wrote in post #15198052 (external link)
that's not that crazy an idea!
think of the money you'd save on diapers and food and clothing....

If I took everything I had spent in daycare over the last 6 years, I am pretty sure I could have bought every EF and EFS lens in production. It's like $25K a year alone. So yeah I get your point.


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Nov 02, 2012 08:20 |  #15

If you don't care about working distance why wouldn't you get the 60mm. I know it doesn't have IS, but it's size is fantastic and the magnification is the same as the 100.


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