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Nov 06, 2012 15:31 |  #16

I am not going to get rid of my 35F2 for this one. The price is a bit steep for me, and I like my 35F2. It does what I want, so I won't rush to fork over $850 for another lens with the same focal length and max aperture.
If the price were $400 or $450, I would be tempted.




  
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Nov 06, 2012 15:39 |  #17

mike cabilangan wrote in post #15212543 (external link)
IS vs 1.4 ... imagine group shots or DOF needed for food shots (without using up your ISO)

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Group shots at below 1/30 shutter speed? Good luck, with or without IS.


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Nov 06, 2012 15:47 |  #18

I'm not in the market for a 35mm lens, but even if I were, I'd probably skip this unless my goal was to travel light (i.e. without tripod) and get the extra stops for stationary stuff.




  
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Nov 06, 2012 16:09 |  #19
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Sirrith wrote in post #15212394 (external link)
I say forget it and get the new sigma 35 1.4 instead when it comes out :)

I'd get the Sigma over an overpriced Canon any day. 1.4 with IS will be amazing.




  
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Nov 06, 2012 16:11 |  #20
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tkbslc wrote in post #15215222 (external link)
Group shots at below 1/30 shutter speed? Good luck, with or without IS.

Yeh forget keeping the camera steady...you'll have to worry about your subjects moving at those speeds.




  
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Nov 06, 2012 16:22 |  #21

mike cabilangan wrote in post #15212543 (external link)
IS vs 1.4 ... imagine group shots or DOF needed for food shots (without using up your ISO)

:)

I use f/2 on both my 28mm f/1.8 and my 50mm f/1.4.. on the 28mm f/1.8 because it reduces the CA a bit and sharpens the lens up quite nicely (I say it "crisps" it a bit) for a small tradeoff in speed... On the 50mm f/1.4 because the slight extra bit of DOF seems to be helpful.... f/1.4 is nice sometimes, I wont lie, but in general they spend their lives at f/2-f/2.8

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I'm not in the market for a 35mm lens, but even if I were, I'd probably skip this unless my goal was to travel light (i.e. without tripod) and get the extra stops for stationary stuff.

Lawl, I rarely use a tripod, So for me, IS is never a detriment, and this is a walkaround lens for me (It goes on my 7D, my 7D goes in my go-everywhere bag) No problems taking my Sigmalux or 15-85 around with me all the time mind you, but I do prefer the 28mm f/1.8 or the 35mm f/2 on there because of size (Otherwise theres not much space in there if i say, buy something and wanna toss it in there)

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Chief complaints on the 28mm f/1.8 are CA, flare, and yeah i concede its not the sharpest lens in my bag where I use it most often, Also the aperture is not rounded which means my bokeh balls usually end up not so ball-ish... good lens that grew on me though

Complaints on the 35mm f/2 are basically the bokeh can be VERY distracting when I shoot food and that.. it goes all nasty and double visioned looking....overall the lens itself I did like, and if i shot more distant subjects id take the 35mm f/2, but for what i tend to do the 28mm f/1.8 works better for me..

The Sigma 30 has a poor MFD which is why i returned it, Great optically however

As for the 35L I hear great things, its just the price thats kept me away, A few hundred difference is still a difference you know ;)

No real complaints on my Sigmalux though, I love that thing... its just 50mm, and for food, 28-35 is more comfortable on my 7D


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Nov 06, 2012 16:24 |  #22

Its unfortunate canon has their head up their rear.

If canon developed a Canon 50 f/1.4 mk2 it would sell like hotcakes instead of a 35 f/2 is.

I wouldn't think twice for a 35 f/2 IS. 35L is a total no brainer. The high ISO performance of camera's these days will probably appreciate faster glass vs image stabilization.


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Nov 06, 2012 16:26 |  #23

Hogloff wrote in post #15215341 (external link)
I'd get the Sigma over an overpriced Canon any day. 1.4 with IS will be amazing.

who's got that one coming out?


I think if this lens is intended for anyone out there....it's you Kenji..and seriously the price in comparison to the other releases isn't nearly as bad...i'm sure this will be a good lens, I just wonder if they are discontinuing all the primes that they're coming out with IS lenses...if that's the case, I'm a bit scared for myself

AlanU wrote in post #15215410 (external link)
Its unfortunate canon has their head up their rear.

If canon developed a Canon 50 f/1.4 mk2 it would sell like hotcakes instead of a 35 f/2 is.

according to canonrumors that should be slated for next year(initially the thought it was being announced now) but it's a 50mm f1.4IS


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Nov 06, 2012 16:27 |  #24

AlanU wrote in post #15215410 (external link)
Its unfortunate canon has their head up their rear.

If canon developed a Canon 50 f/1.4 mk2 it would sell like hotcakes instead of a 35 f/2 is.

I wouldn't think twice for a 35 f/2 IS. 35L is a total no brainer. The high ISO performance of camera's these days will probably appreciate faster glass vs image stabilization.

Actually..wouldnt the better ISO performance say IS and a smaller aperture is better than a larger aperture since you dont need a large aperture to get the shot anymore? and stopping down to a smaller aperture results in higher sharpness which is a massive benefit to modern high density sensors?


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Nov 06, 2012 16:36 |  #25

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Actually..wouldnt the better ISO performance say IS and a smaller aperture is better than a larger aperture since you dont need a large aperture to get the shot anymore? and stopping down to a smaller aperture results in higher sharpness which is a massive benefit to modern high density sensors?

Thats one way to look at it. However if the subject moves IS wont give you faster shutter speeds to stop motion.

I guess put a redring around it and people will buy it LOL!!


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Nov 06, 2012 16:40 |  #26

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I think if this lens is intended for anyone out there....it's you Kenji..and seriously the price in comparison to the other releases isn't nearly as bad...i'm sure this will be a good lens, I just wonder if they are discontinuing all the primes that they're coming out with IS lenses...if that's the case, I'm a bit scared for myself

See thats the hilarity of this announcement, The 35mm f/2 and 24-70 f/4L IS are two lenses RIGHT up my alley, I adore both lenses when you take the price out of the equation... the 24-70 would find its way in my bag almost guaranteed alongside a FF DSLR actually (.7x Macro Zoom! :D)

But then i put the price in the equation and I start sighing... Simply put, Nikon has a better deal out there, Sure theres no AF-S 35mm f/2 right now (I bet you one is coming soon however) and the 35mm f/2D has the same bokeh problems as the Canon 35 f/2 i have now (According to photozone at least.. they mentioned "double visioned bokeh" so yeah..) Nikon has its own Pseudo-macro Zoom in the new 70-200 f/4 VR which also claims improved VR performance (5 stops) which again, is very appealing...

Right now I'd have to come up with a good $2000 out of pocket to buy a 5D Mark III, The 6D doesnt appeal to me for the simple fact of ergonomics and I somehow feel I'm giving up more getting a 5D II than I'm really gaining (Could be wrong..)

On the other hand I could trade everything off and get a D600 and a full compliment of lenses for very little to nothing out of pocket..


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Nov 06, 2012 16:46 |  #27

yeah, except for the price, i was actually waiting for a new FF kit lens. (didn't want to buy the 24-105)

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without IS, i need 1/125 to keep my hand shake from affecting the shot.
with IS, i can push that down to 1/60, good enough for people shots.


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Nov 06, 2012 17:04 as a reply to  @ mike cabilangan's post |  #28

Clearly Canon are going for IS on all their prime lenses.

In principal an upgraded 35mm f/2 makes sense if the image quality is there but the focus ring looks no better than the one on the current f/2.


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Nov 06, 2012 17:29 |  #29

AlanU wrote in post #15215410 (external link)
If canon developed a Canon 50 f/1.4 mk2 it would sell like hotcakes instead of a 35 f/2 is.

Even a 50/1.4 Mark II with an $800 price tag? ;)


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Nov 06, 2012 18:23 |  #30

Echo Johnson wrote in post #15215618 (external link)
Even a 50/1.4 Mark II with an $800 price tag? ;)

Pentax does it

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