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Food photography: Zeiss 50MP on FF vs Canon 35 f/2 IS on crop

 
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Nov 07, 2012 00:52 |  #1

with the recent announcement of the canon 35 f/2 IS
i thought about selling two of my lenses: 35L and ZE 50mm MP
the 35L, i never use anyway, i keep it in the hope to pair it with a future EOS-M or 650D

now the 50, i use this with a full frame camera for food pics.
it has an MFD of 240mm like the 35 f/2 IS.

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i was thinking i would get a similar image if i mounted the 35 f/2 IS on a crop camera.

if food photography is my only purpose for my zeiss lens, am i right that i can dump it for the 35 f/2 IS?


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Nov 07, 2012 01:24 |  #2
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If you use the Zeiss purely for the near macro ability, then I guess...

But apart from food, I am sure the Zeiss is a better lens overall.

Another factor is ff vs crop, although they both give you similar focal length, is the end result really the same? I mean why do you want to dumb down to crop to fit the new lens?

Personally I'd take the Zeiss. Now selling the 35L to fund some other lens is another topic ;)


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Nov 07, 2012 02:27 |  #3

i never really saw the 3D magic of the 50MP ... and i have a hard time using the lens on anything BUT static objects.


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Nov 07, 2012 02:56 |  #4
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mike cabilangan wrote in post #15217042 (external link)
i never really saw the 3D magic of the 50MP .

Most certainly not with food shots ;)

... and i have a hard time using the lens on anything BUT static objects.

Fair comment. But you should have known that before buying a MF lens :lol:

i love my Zeiss for food shot..

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Nov 07, 2012 04:33 |  #5

mike cabilangan wrote in post #15217042 (external link)
.....and i have a hard time using the lens on anything BUT static objects.

Fully understandable, Mike. The 50/1.4 is much better for moving subjects due to the reduced focus ring rotation (80 degrees less than the MP) and also the fact that it's not biased towards the macro end so much.

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Nov 07, 2012 04:34 |  #6

I say do it. IS would be useful for food shots, and if you're having trouble using MF, then there really is no point keeping a lens that is MF only unless you personally have a special reason for wanting to keep it (other people telling you it is filled with magic pixie dust and will automatically make your photos beautiful doesn't count).


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Nov 07, 2012 04:52 |  #7

but what about the technical side of things.
am i right to assume:

same MFD ...
50mm on FF is almost equal to 35mm on crop?


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Nov 07, 2012 05:35 |  #8

Yep they will be pretty close. 35mm x 1.6 = 56mm. I would get the 35.


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Nov 07, 2012 06:05 |  #9

yeah the 50MP has served me well with food photography, i only bought it because of the glowing reviews here and to satisfy my curiosity with MF (i thought it'd be just as easy as the film days)

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i wanted to go back to basics and shoot old school manual focus, but i hadn't imagined being required to use live view to shoot.


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Nov 08, 2012 05:06 |  #10

Mike - out of curiosity - did you get a different focus screen when you tried the MF Zeiss? and if not - why not? I was under the impression that it makes using MF lenses much easier (excuse my ignorance - since I have never used a MF lens on a digital camera)


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Nov 08, 2012 06:23 |  #11

yes i have an EG-S screen, but i don't think i should be your example because i am far sighted.


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Nov 08, 2012 06:28 |  #12

mike cabilangan wrote in post #15221400 (external link)
yes i have an EG-S screen, but i don't think i should be your example because i am far sighted.

again excuse my ignorance - but what does far sightedness have to do with a focus screen? Are there screens for different eye sight difficulties?

did you find that you were unable to benefit fully from the screen because of yuor far sightedness?


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Nov 08, 2012 07:22 |  #13

Just know what you are getting into with crop... more dof when framed the same, and less sharp.


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Nov 08, 2012 08:07 |  #14

i can use my 35L for food photos

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Nov 08, 2012 08:39 |  #15

The FOV between your two options will be similar and of course there is the obvious differences between AF and MF.

But, more importantly, the ZE50 MP f2 is an absolute optical marvel if you can put up with MF. It is easily top of class for sharpness, contrast (micro and global), color rendition, disortion and bokeh quality. Although we have yet to see real world examples of the new 35 f2 IS, I doubt it will compete on the same level as the ZE50 MP. And, since many restaurants are very dimly lit, who is to say AF will be very useful at all? You may find yourself manually focusing anyway...

I would suggest picking up a focusing screen and giving yourself another shot with the 50MP. I don't think your far-sightedness would be impacted by the focusing screen - doesn't that simply mean your eyes are better at seeing distant objects than closer ones? I would think that your relative level of difficulty seeing objects up close would be about the same with or without the focusing screen. Maybe a diopter adjustment in your viewfinder could help but I'm not sure...


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