Thinking about the future camera.

Well, sad to say, but my 1Ds2 has moved on to a new home. So, currently, aside from my wife's 5Dc, I'm without a camera. As weird as it feels, I guess it's a good thing that I have time to research some stuff with regard to a new machine.

While the 5D3 and the D800 seem to be great cameras, I know I'd miss the built in shutter button of the 1-series cameras. And to add a grip doesn't really work for me, unfortunately.

Alongside that, I've been toying with the idea of getting into video, if for nothing else other than personal videos, till I learn more about it, and editing, etc.

So, that brings about the obvious choices...that are currently on the market. Thus, I figured I'd ask what 'you' might do, in my situation, as I haven't figured it out, yet.

Option 1 -- Canon 1Ds3 and maybe a 5D2? Though, having two bodies isn't really ideal for me, since I mostly shoot by myself. I'm really not a huge fan of the 5d2, given the replacement 5d3 has more to offer in terms of AF/speed/etc.

Option 2 -- Canon 1Dx given all the glass that I have accumulated over the years. Yes, an expensive venture, offset by the completed sale of the 1Ds2, and a couple of other items.

Option 3 -- OMG -- Nikkor 85 1.4 f/1.4D IF Autofocus lens + Nikon D4 (and yes, I know it'd take a while to accumulate new glass, but, then again, I'd still have all the Canon glass to use with the 5D).

I'm torn, and also feel weird not having a camera of my own (aside from the wife's 5D). So, what might 'you' choose, and why? TIA...and please, no wars about Canon vs. Nikon. It's been beaten to death.

The 5D Mk III and the D800 both have built in shutter buttons.....or you mean portrait orientation? Why doesn't adding a grip work? It's basically the same thing.

What type of photography do you do?

I'm struggling to understand why a grip doesnt work for you?

I have both a gripped 5D mk3 and 1Dx. Either is an amazing choice if you have Canon glass already.
The battery grip for the 5D mk3 works very well and allows for days of shooting!

Bottom line, stick to the newer generation of cameras...the AF is so far beyond the previous generation it's scary!

Can't speak towards the Nikon choice as I don't know them but the D4 is rumored to be a pretty awesome camera as well.

^^Thanks...do you have some comparison shots on your site that are easily identifiable?

As for why...I just think the grip would be another part that could break, I'd have to charge/maintain more batteries, to think of a couple.

Type of photography...hmmm...e​verything from butterflies to fashion. Thus, the collection of glass, over time.

If I were playing in that deck of cards ........... 1DIV




You could rent a body(s) to try out for a few days. That might be the ideal way to decide.

ha! post 2,000 above to help out an old schoolmate

nice

Hey Dan. How goes it? Getting along with the new cam?

As for the 1D4, hard to find new, and plus, don't really want a crop body.

I have a couple of weeks to decide. No rush on my end...

I think you should rethink the "grip doesn't work for me" until you have handled the 5D3 with grip. I have had a lot of other "gripped" bodies, and this one is a step above. I've also gone through 3 generations of 1D series bodies, and Nikon pro bodies before that... and I'm quite happy with the gripped 5D3. It doesn't feel like a plastic add-on... it feels much more like a seamless Pro body than other gripped cameras. They even went so far as to have the battery tray removable and uses the same twist clip that the 1D batteries use.

True, you'll have to charge two batteries instead of one, but you can buy a second charger pretty cheap and charge them together... the two chargers for the 5D3 batteries actually take up less space than the dual battery charger of for the 1D series.

The 5D3 has the same autofocus engine as the $6800 1DX. It betters all previous 1D series bodies in this department, so you'd have an amazing full frame sensor and the best 1D series autofocus Canon has ever produced, and give up a little bit in build... but as I said, the gripped 5D3 is significantly closer to the 1D build than prior Canon bodies.

^^Good thoughts to consider, for sure. I'm just not sold on which would be better for me, regarding the 5D3 versus the 1Dx. Of course, if I did go the route of the 5D3, then I could always pass that along to the wife, and get a 1Dx in the future...so, definitely something to consider, for sure.

inthedeck wrote in post #15220366
^^Thanks...do you have some comparison shots on your site that are easily identifiable?

As for why...I just think the grip would be another part that could break, I'd have to charge/maintain more batteries, to think of a couple.

The grip serves the same function as the integrated one in the 1 series, only you can remove it if you like. Sure you have two batteries instead of one, but they are certainly less expensive. Dont get me wrong if you want a 1 series get one, but the objection to the grip seems to be a silly distinction.

^^I realize that...the grip serving the same purpose. And it's not the only thing preventing me from the 5d3 route, it's just one of the things in my mind...a stigma, perhaps.

I just feel I'd be missing something, if I went the 5d3 route, versus the 1Dx route...and I've researched both cams, seen pictures from both, read through the threads on here, and still don't know which one I'd enjoy more, in the long run. :/

inthedeck wrote in post #15221980
^^I realize that...the grip serving the same purpose. And it's not the only thing preventing me from the 5d3 route, it's just one of the things in my mind...a stigma, perhaps.

I just feel I'd be missing something, if I went the 5d3 route, versus the 1Dx route...and I've researched both cams, seen pictures from both, read through the threads on here, and still don't know which one I'd enjoy more, in the long run. :/

I went through the same thing when the 6D was announced. The specs with the 5DII were close, some new features, but also some things crippled. I ultimately decided on the 5DII because it was cheaper, and honestly having loved the original 5D I wanted to stay in that lineage and the 6D seemed a departure. Sometimes it comes down to what you want.

Numenorean wrote in post #15219231
The 5D Mk III and the D800 both have built in shutter buttons.....or you mean portrait orientation? Why doesn't adding a grip work? It's basically the same thing.

What type of photography do you do?

You must never have used a 1D series. It's not the same and not even close. It may work for some but won't for other. I like the grip on the 1D series and hated the add on grip as well.

gonzogolf wrote in post #15221996
I went through the same thing when the 6D was announced. The specs with the 5DII were close, some new features, but also some things crippled. I ultimately decided on the 5DII because it was cheaper, and honestly having loved the original 5D I wanted to stay in that lineage and the 6D seemed a departure. Sometimes it comes down to what you want.

I hear ya...and I still have a 5D at home, so, i'm very familiar with it. The 6D doesn't pique my interests in the least, honestly. Having used the 1Ds2 for 3 years, it just became very comfortable to handle, for me, at least. Some may complain about the weight, but, my baby weighs more than the camera with an 85L attached to it...so, a non-issue for me.

drive_75 wrote in post #15222160
You must never have used a 1D series. It's not the same and not even close. It may work for some but won't for other. I like the grip on the 1D series and hated the add on grip as well.

I was wondering when someone would chime in on that. And this is one of those things that I figured I might not like, at the end of it all. I'd hate to make a costly mistake, and then not enjoy using a gripped body, versus one that already has it built in. For me, it really was a huge difference when I sold my 5D, to obtain the 1Ds2. Even the size of the 5D felt weird after a while, given I was so used to handling a 1-series. This is kind of where Option 3 played into the whole scheme...but, it may not be a wise choice, since I would only have the one piece of glass, for a while, given the total expense.