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Nov 09, 2012 09:07 |  #1

Like the title says, I use the highlight blinkies together with the histogram to determine scene exposure. Why isn't there a Shadow alert?


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Nov 09, 2012 09:15 |  #2

Why would you need any? If the highlights are just below blinking, then you are correct. What's black then should be black.


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Nov 09, 2012 09:24 |  #3

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Why would you need any? If the highlights are just below blinking, then you are correct. What's black then should be black.

Until you start using filters.


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Nov 09, 2012 09:26 as a reply to  @ Numenorean's post |  #4

OK, but that's a different approach to accomplishing HDR, in which case we modify the "black" and "white" as it suits us anyway. Do we need blinkies then? Maybe to tell us that such modifications are worthwhile?


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Nov 09, 2012 10:00 |  #5

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Why would you need any? If the highlights are just below blinking, then you are correct. What's black then should be black.

I dont want it to judge exposure. I want it so that I can see where its black, not if its black.


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Nov 09, 2012 10:52 |  #6

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I dont want it to judge exposure. I want it so that I can see where its black, not if its black.

I am not sure the sensors will ever record true black (0,0,0), I would expect they will always record something just because of the amplifiers?

I think I even tried that once in a completely dark room in the basement with a body cap on.


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Nov 09, 2012 11:10 |  #7

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I am not sure the sensors will ever record true black (0,0,0), I would expect they will always record something just because of the amplifiers?

I think I even tried that once in a completely dark room in the basement with a body cap on.

So make it adjustable so that it would blink at any number below 10, or 5. ;)


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Nov 09, 2012 11:28 as a reply to  @ JakAHearts's post |  #8

Canon's DPP software(and many others) does have adjustable shadow(and highlight) warnings...But having this feature in camera could possibly be useful in certain circumstances...Why don't you email Canon about it?


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Nov 09, 2012 11:33 |  #9

I thought the new models had both shadow and highlight warnings, check the custom function menu

I know my 20D only has the highlight warning tho


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Nov 09, 2012 12:07 |  #10

Does anyone know at what level the highlight warning will blink on a 5dmkiii, Mkii and 7d? How close to full blowout is the warning set? Is this adjustable?




  
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Nov 09, 2012 12:21 as a reply to  @ Sigtech's post |  #11

Maybe because there is no such thing as "darkness?" Darkness is the absence of light, with light being measurable. (the same way there is no such thing as cold; it's just the absence of heat, which is measurable)


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Nov 09, 2012 12:57 |  #12

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Maybe because there is no such thing as "darkness?" Darkness is the absence of light, with light being measurable. (the same way there is no such thing as cold; it's just the absence of heat, which is measurable)

Hey hey hey... The elections here are over now so no need for any more double talk.... ;)

As already mentioned DPP can show shadow warnings so maybe you should send your suggestion to Canon.

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Nov 09, 2012 13:02 |  #13

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Hey hey hey... The elections here are over now so no need for any more double talk.... ;)

As already mentioned DPP can show shadow warnings so maybe you should send your suggestion to Canon.

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As smart as I think I am, there has to be some reason though. You cant claim that no one at Canon has thought of this.


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Nov 09, 2012 13:07 |  #14

Most likely because Nikon hasn't offered it......




  
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Nov 09, 2012 13:10 as a reply to  @ JakAHearts's post |  #15

Shadow clipping is defined by the processing (varies), highlight clipping is defined at the sensor and is absolute.


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