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Nov 14, 2012 11:25 |  #1

Do you just give them an 8x10 crop -- or offer that and a 4x6 for variety? Of course, offering both is extra work, so wondering what others do.


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Nov 14, 2012 11:52 |  #2

I only give them what our agreement includes


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Nov 14, 2012 11:54 |  #3

I usually give them an uncropped image along with a detailed conversation about the differing shapes of different enlargements and the need to crop accurately when they print to avoid having automatic settings do it for them.




  
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Nov 14, 2012 12:55 |  #4

I leave the crops at 4x6 for all images but for 1) a few shots that are really improved with a different crop, and 2) some formal group shots, which I crop to 8x10.



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Nov 14, 2012 13:33 as a reply to  @ Christopher Steven b's post |  #5

I make sure to talk it over before the start of the project, I made the mistake of telling a family friend I would crop to 8x10, 5x7 and 4x6 for their senior portraits. I will never do that again without enough money to make it worth my while lol.




  
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Nov 14, 2012 15:30 |  #6

Interesting thoughts . . . I was doing both crops for awhile, but then thought that 8x10 made the most sense, but now thinking that just leaving them as is (4x6) probably is because it's easier for them to make other crops from there. OK -- thanks for the feedback! (And I hear you on that, Littlejon!)


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Nov 14, 2012 16:19 |  #7

I use 5x7 and leave a bit of room. I think it's a happy medium, though I haven't seen too many clients photos after I hand the disc over. I might cry if I did that anyway (#hates-walgreens-prints)


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Whenever I do it It's full File res.
I sell the image not the editing. If they want that, they pay for it or do it themselves.


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Nov 14, 2012 21:11 as a reply to  @ glumpy's post |  #9

Same as glumpy, though in my case the final images are generally edited. On occasion, I provide Photoshop files with layers...about 3-4 GB each.

I should have add, this is for advertising.


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Nov 14, 2012 21:27 |  #10

Not sure I understand -- I was talking about the crop. Of course, you can (and probably do), just give them the crop that comes out of the camera (in my case, it's extra work to crop to 8x10), so giving them a 4x6 is not "editing."

If you are, in addition, talking about editing in general -- well, I would never sell or give an unedited RAW file (or convert it to jpeg unedited.) That makes ME look bad. So, yes, editing in general is part of the deal when someone purchases a CD from me (it's written in the cost.)


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Nov 14, 2012 21:47 |  #11

Because 99.999999% of the time any cient that wants proofs on a cd is usually headed to the local box-mart for processing, I don't do cd's. I won't spend my time and skills in producing a finished product for a client that's going to be trashed during the last step (printing) then shown to their friends and family and have my name associated with it. I let the client know up front the prints they decide on will come from a professional lab such as WHCC.

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Nov 15, 2012 06:20 |  #12

I was referring to those who pay to purchase a CD with full resolution, fully edited files. Yes, I do offer this as a purchasing option (I offer prints as well.) I find that it is just too big of a market demand for me to eliminate the option, but I also see where you are coming from with lower quality prints. I do warn my customers about it, but most want it anyway. You have to admit that with companies like MPix out there, good quality prints is not as evasive as it used to be.


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Nov 15, 2012 10:50 |  #13

YankeeMom wrote in post #15244929 (external link)
Do you just give them an 8x10 crop -- or offer that and a 4x6 for variety? Of course, offering both is extra work, so wondering what others do.

I don't crop at all unless I'm "fixing" a composition.


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Nov 15, 2012 11:36 |  #14

When I sell an image on CD for a school photo I always give them a high res picture that has been appropriately cropped so that they can get a 4x6, 5x7 or 8x10 out of it. They purchased the image and copyright release and it's easier to do one picture and let them do the cropping themselves but i do make sure the basic sizes are covered




  
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