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Nov 15, 2012 01:20 |  #1

Anyway, in my "neighborhood" there is quite a bit of violent conflict
and while I am just a hobbiest photographer
I have to say that no matter what "side" a certain person may represent
those men and women who go into areas of conflict
risking life and limb
to get the photographic and video coverage
(and reporters as well)
just amaze me.
I couldn't do it.... I am too much of a chicken
but - way to go to all of you who do.....
but equally....
i wonder what makes you all "tick"
what drives you to do what you do?
ideology? adrenaline?


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Nov 15, 2012 13:15 |  #2

ceriltheblade wrote in post #15247664 (external link)
Anyway, in my "neighborhood" there is quite a bit of violent conflict
and while I am just a hobbiest photographer
I have to say that no matter what "side" a certain person may represent
those men and women who go into areas of conflict
risking life and limb
to get the photographic and video coverage
(and reporters as well)
just amaze me.
I couldn't do it.... I am too much of a chicken
but - way to go to all of you who do.....
but equally....
i wonder what makes you all "tick"
what drives you to do what you do?
ideology? adrenaline?

probably documentation, journalism - That is the factor driving me. I have not yet been into war, but in a lot of other places I shouldn't have been.

Would do war pictures if I get the chance.




  
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Nov 15, 2012 14:51 as a reply to  @ post 15249560 |  #3

There's a certain type of personality that's drawn to photojournalism, and a much smaller subset that actively seeks conflict. They're driven folks, many times wholly committed to getting the story out and capturing events as they happen. For some the tension and adrenaline is almost an addiction. Not for me, thank you. I've done the more mundane photojournalism in my time and that was more than stressful enough. I don't know how they do it, but they have a role to play.


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Nov 16, 2012 13:48 |  #4

ceriltheblade wrote in post #15247664 (external link)
Anyway, in my "neighborhood" there is quite a bit of violent conflict


i wonder what makes you all "tick"
what drives you to do what you do?
ideology? adrenaline?

two cups of Java Joe in the morning is all I need




  
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Nov 16, 2012 15:09 as a reply to  @ watt100's post |  #5

I don't know any serious photographers that did not fantasize of going to the front line and coming back with award winning photography. I do know one person that had that chance and was embedded in with a Canadian Forces EOD (bomb) unit in Afghanistan. He is one of those photographers that will only ever make the trip once as he said he had a hard time stomaching what he saw. He had some powerful images and won a couple of Canadian press awards for his work.

There are some photographers that will go back time and time again. They seem to need that adrenaline fix. No matter what the reason is we owe them a debt of gratitude for showing what our troops really go through on a daily basis. I enjoy shooting fast paced items but don't think I could don a bullet proof vest and go do that.


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Nov 16, 2012 19:49 |  #6

No matter the conflict, there will always be real people who live it. I think those people deserve the fraction of a second it takes to save their story, and someone has to go and take the time to do it.

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Nov 16, 2012 20:32 |  #7

Monday nights on HBO is the documentary called "Witness" which is footage from photojournalists.
Its pretty incredible to watch


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Nov 18, 2012 05:51 |  #8

thanks for the "heads-up" on witness. I had not heard of it. it got interesting reviews.
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NatDeroxyl7 - I agree with your sentence. and it seems that many times it is the governments who decide about violent conflict - while the weakest elements in the same societies suffer. It seems that your pictures capture some interesting personalities. Thanks for sharing your pictures.
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SSIM - i am sure that many people couldn't stand the type of scenes that your friend saw. I have seen my fair share of gore, but I am on the treating side - I don't think i, personally, could see it through a lens. but you're right - the work that these people do is amazing in many aspects. I wonder if the majority are single without spouse or children?
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watt100 - :) - just 2 cups of coffee? and you are off to face the world, eh? my hat off to you for sure!
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jblashke - makes sense. i can't do that kind of stress in my own profession either.
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newporthomie - really? well, good luck to you in that. Would you say that the descriptions of the personality here describes you (at least, in part) when it comes to your attitude towards violent conflict and photography?

have any of you thought on some of the issues brought up in "witness" - i.e. the role of the photographer in capturing a moment vs helping a certain individual at a specific time?


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Nov 18, 2012 12:40 |  #9

NatDeroxL7 wrote in post #15255083 (external link)
No matter the conflict, there will always be real people who live it. I think those people deserve the fraction of a second it takes to save their story, and someone has to go and take the time to do it.

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wow, you got some great "conflict" images !




  
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Nov 18, 2012 19:56 |  #10

ceriltheblade wrote in post #15259301 (external link)
thanks for the "heads-up" on witness. I had not heard of it. it got interesting reviews.

have any of you thought on some of the issues brought up in "witness" - i.e. the role of the photographer in capturing a moment vs helping a certain individual at a specific time?

Based on your question I assume you watched for the first episode in Mexico?
I didnt like the entitled attitude of the photographer, the second episode is much better IMO


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Nov 18, 2012 23:38 |  #11

hehehe
not yet. i have it recorded and awaiting some "free" time (ha!) to watch it.
I understood some of the issues mentioned from the reviews I read.
but it has always been a question I had (from the time I was a kid and started watching the images come out of the then starving Ethiopia - I always wondered why the people there from the Western countries didn't share at least "part of their sandwich")
and then when I studied philosophy in college - is there such a thing as a neutral observer....

sorry - these philosophical and ethical questions always interested me.


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Nov 19, 2012 09:06 |  #12

BTW - did you see the first episode? it was quite fragmented with very little back story...
and I can't say that I really got too much from the photographer
his style of photography was interesting "i am not an action photographer"
but i am not sure that I learned too much from it - nor can i say that i enjoyed.
I will be interested to see the next installments.


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Nov 19, 2012 09:51 |  #13

Part of the problem of being a war-photographer is that fine line of getting a quality shot and not getting caught capturing something someone doesn't want you to see.

Journalists don't just get killed by friendly fire or collateral damage. They are often targeted in order to shut them up.

Personally, I congratulate them. Very brave and noble to document man at his worst.

Politically (although I'm not supposed to go there on POTN), I am on the side of the humans in the conflict. In other words, we are all one species, and on the same side (in my opinion). We all share the exact same ancestors, regardless of science or religion. We should be shooting each other with cameras, not guns. And that's how I feel. I like people and don't want any culture to end. It would be one less flavor at Baskin Robbins, so-to-speak.


Note: I don't think I would be able to do it (photograph war) as I have a higher level of fear than I think most people do. I always rationalize the consequences in any situation I face. I'd say the most dangerous situations I've encountered were surfing big waves. When you're out there in huge surf, the biggest threat is your own psychology. I was out in twelve-foot surf at Sunset Beach (North Shore, Oahu) a few years back to push myself into some heavy surf. I caught one wave and made it to the end. The whole thing was timed just right and planned so that I would be able to get to deep water quickly and back out to a safe enough area. Like anything, surfing big waves requires zero hesitation. On my second wave I hesitated and wiped out. I did everything wrong. I took the first wave of a set, hesitated, and then panicked. Long story short: I almost drowned in the next five minutes but eventually got to shore (after ingesting and vomiting saltwater several times). I crawled up on the shore and a huge Hawaiian dude with a broken surfboard under one arm and a huge smile on his face picked me up with his free hand and said, "Hey, brah, you're alive."

A few hours later I stood in knee-deep water at Pipeline for half an hour, board under my arm, trying to get the courage to paddle out and attack it. I ended up not going out there. I wasn't ready.

My point is that when my life is on the line, I usually avoid conflict. Therefore, I have a huge admiration for people who can get into those kinds of situations on a regular basis.


My guess is that for any American who wants to experience that kind of thing (photographing conflict) to head to Mexico and visit the border towns. Spend enough time there and you'll find what you're looking for. You might even make it back alive.


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Nov 19, 2012 15:25 |  #14

team haymaker wrote in post #15255164 (external link)
Monday nights on HBO is the documentary called "Witness" which is footage from photojournalists.
Its pretty incredible to watch

This is one HBO's latest best documentary series in a long time.
I love watching this and hearing these photogs stories.


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Nov 19, 2012 18:38 |  #15

ceriltheblade wrote in post #15263378 (external link)
BTW - did you see the first episode? it was quite fragmented with very little back story...
and I can't say that I really got too much from the photographer
his style of photography was interesting "i am not an action photographer"
but i am not sure that I learned too much from it - nor can i say that i enjoyed.
I will be interested to see the next installments.

Dont worry, second episode is MUCH better. Third one is one at 9 tonight

In regards to doing it myself, I couldnt do it. I always feel the need to help and have trouble being a bystander. And to me a photo isnt worth death or possible death. I'd rather be with my family


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