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Would you sell 24-70 2.8 & 24-105 IS to buy 24-70 2.8 II

 
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Nov 28, 2012 09:50 |  #46

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If u own both the 24-70 and the 105 you should consider why u bought both to begin with. Maybe u prefer one length over the other, maybe u like IS and of course the aperture. But u may also want to slow down before u take the plunge and think about the advantages of the doubly expensive version two. What on earth has Canon done to make this thing so much more expensive? Is it advertising bills u have to pay for? Or have they gone and performed a miracle in the desert? Every time they come out with something some people jump on the magic carpet and ride over to "L" world. But in the end it's your decision. The new version may be better and that's all u need to know.

could be because you were never totally happy with either lens.


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Nov 28, 2012 09:57 |  #47

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You must of had a really bad copy. 24-105 is one of my sharpest and favorite lens to use. Ive got a excellent 24-105 and would never part with it. We also have an excellent copy of the brick so im staying put. Im using my primes more these days anyway so thats another reason im not upgrading. The 50 and 85L's are glued to cameras and the zooms are only being used at receptions and circumstances that i cant move about in. Lots of reasons to keep current versions, lots of reasons to change to the version II 24-70...I want great glass that can do F/2.0.....just my thoughts.

i've owned several copies. i guess it depends on what you use the lens for. if it's for landscapes the distortion at 24mm is just unacceptable (for me). and really though it's an f4 lens it's poor at f4. i would consider f4.5 to be "wide open" on this lens.

i'd say the II is as sharp @ f3.2 as either the brick or the 24-105L is at f5.6 and that's important to me because i prefer not to use primes.

i want a lens that can do f2 also. later i'll pick up the 35 f2 IS, and it'll be my only prime. i want a streamlined kit, not more stuff to carry.


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Nov 28, 2012 11:05 |  #48

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i want a streamlined kit, not more stuff to carry.

+1 on that. I am trying to downsize. Time will tell if I go back to the primes when I get to shooting more sports.


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Nov 28, 2012 11:05 |  #49

Dasani wrote in post #15299199 (external link)
Congrats Mike, glad you went that way and seems like you're enjoying the combo. If you dont mind share a couple more images of the two?

I'll try to do that when I have something interesting. Thus far its just Thanksgiving weekend stuff, so nothing too exciting.


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Nov 29, 2012 02:42 |  #50

umphotography wrote in post #15299194 (external link)
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You must of had a really bad copy. 24-105 is one of my sharpest and favorite lens to use. Ive got a excellent 24-105 and would never part with it. We also have an excellent copy of the brick so im staying put. Im using my primes more these days anyway so thats another reason im not upgrading. The 50 and 85L's are glued to cameras and the zooms are only being used at receptions and circumstances that i cant move about in. Lots of reasons to keep current versions, lots of reasons to change to the version II 24-70...I want great glass that can do F/2.0.....just my thoughts.

Hmm I tried three 24-105 and they were all the same. Vastly worse than my 24-70 II and even noticeably worse than my really excellent copy of the Tamron 28-75 (which cost only a fraction of the 24-105 price, granted no IS, much slower and not quite as good AF, and less range, but sharper, sharper center frame, sharper at the edges, less CA at the wide end) which is actually noticeably close to my 24-70 II than any 24-105 I tried. I always though the 24-105 was a sort of whatever L lens. Super convenient but just not that hot, perhaps a few copies here and there are uber copies and much better than the rest.




  
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Nov 29, 2012 07:19 |  #51

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I'll try to do that when I have something interesting. Thus far its just Thanksgiving weekend stuff, so nothing too exciting.

so how sharp is it wide open at 24mm? pp said it incredible sharp when you step down to 3.5? or smaller aperture?? what about CA? How do you feel about the hood? Filter is a must?


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Nov 30, 2012 10:19 |  #52

Dasani, I honestly don't tend to pixel peep, so I've not done any detailed analysis. Having switched from a 1D3 to the 5D3, and not having the other lens any longer, I doubt I'd have an objective analysis. I really only used the 24-105 on the 5D3 for a day, so nothing to analyze. There are many more folks who have done that kind of thing out there. I tend to shoot a lot wide open, and only stop down if I'm doing a group shop or something and need more depth of field. So I will yield to those who do detailed sharpness analysis to weigh in. I rely a lot on The Digital Picture tool -> http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=2 (external link)

That shows a dramatic difference between the two at 24mm and f/4.

The hood is and ergonomics are nearly identical to the 24-105 which I really liked.... except that the 24-70 II just has a more polished and precision feel to it all around. I've already voiced that I hated the handling of the 24-70 Mk I in here already. So, love the hood. I always run Hoya filters on all my lenses from the day I get them, so no difference here other than the larger size meant I had to spend money on it.


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Nov 30, 2012 11:26 |  #53

Timsxsi wrote in post #15251642 (external link)
I would not. I sold my 24-70mkI and should have kept it.

Why?


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Nov 30, 2012 12:27 |  #54

Dasani wrote in post #15303509 (external link)
so how sharp is it wide open at 24mm? pp said it incredible sharp when you step down to 3.5? or smaller aperture?? what about CA? How do you feel about the hood? Filter is a must?

here are the reviews of the 24-70L II:

http://www.lensrentals​.com …esolution-tests#more-9233 (external link)

http://slrgear.com …t.php/product/1​494/cat/11 (external link)

http://www.photozone.d​e …_ff/773-canon2470f28mk2ff (external link)

http://www.reikan.co.u​k …ure-sharpness-comparison/ (external link)#


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Dec 01, 2012 05:45 |  #55

Well i can get rid of my 24-70 mk1 to get this mkII, but i don't want to get rid of 24-105L yet, the reach here is sometimes a bit handy if i don't use 70-200, and i always like to have 2 lenses instead of one if that one doesn't have all the FL of both lenses i will sacrifice for, if it is 24-105 f2.8L even non IS then i will sell both of my lenses, so i will keep both for now until i can find a great deal on 24-70mkII and i can sell my 24-70 at good price.


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