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Nov 15, 2012 23:15 |  #1

I've been wanting to do this for quite some time, just couldn't figure out an easy way to attach my 82mm polarizers to my flash units, until I ran into something at Lowes. At any rate, here are the parts. Two PVC downspout adapters, two 77to82mm stepup rings, two LED flashlights, a couple of bag dividers, and some velcro.

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From there you just superglue the step up rings to the downspout adapter, drill holes in the location in the picture below to accommodate the flashlights, slap some vecro on for good measure, and use your bag dividers snugly fit between your downspout adapter and flash, and wam, bam, thank you mam.

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The flash head centers rather nicely in the downspout. When it rains, it pours.:D

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The flashlights are rather important as a continuous light source for lining up your polarizers, although you would be hard pressed if you were to do this, while in a well lit area. I'll post some results in my next post.



  
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Nov 15, 2012 23:23 |  #2

Two bare flash on either side.

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Two flash on either side, with cross polarization.
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From a painting with bare flash either side.
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Painting with cross polarization.
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Love the saturation!



  
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Nov 16, 2012 05:31 |  #3

Very cool DIY, I like the fact that it is pretty clean to look at. Is this mostly for macro/art reproduction?


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Nov 16, 2012 10:57 |  #4

I see the results, but what are the polarizers actually doing to cause the results and what exactly do you mean by lining them up?


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Nov 16, 2012 12:04 |  #5

Nice DIY set up. There is also the option of buying a sheet of linear polarizing film and using that with a custom mount.

Chechgio, light can travel in linear, elliptical, and circular wave forms depending on the light source and the surface. The goal here is to filter all the light so it is all a linear wave form. By using a polarizer on the flash and the camera, we can be sure that the light gets polarized the the orientation we want. What the net effect of this is, we are able to either add or remove surface glare from the subject, and in turn deepen the look of colors.

An interesting side note, if he were to turn around the CPLs on the flash, he would no longer be crosspolarizing. CPLs made as camera filters are actually a linear polarizer(half wave plate) on the front and a circular polarizer(quater wave plate) on the back. You can see this with you own CPL filter by looking at a computer monitor in one direction with it, then flipping it around and looking at the monitor in that direction.


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Nov 16, 2012 12:08 |  #6

CptTripps wrote in post #15252247 (external link)
Very cool DIY, I like the fact that it is pretty clean to look at. Is this mostly for macro/art reproduction?

Definitely both, it's the only way to shoot art work such as paintings, not only do you get rid of almost, if not ALL reflections, you get the saturation that is to die for.

As far as macro goes, we'll see, it is after all a four stop reduction in your lighting capability. One might run into difficulty getting enough light shooting at f16 for instance. There is the limitation of the lack of diffusion, but at the same time most of those pesky reflections will be gone, and also at the same time, the lack of reflections could leave your picture a bit flat. One could however dial it down a bit for at least some reflection. It should be interesting and fun to find all this out on yer own.

Not sure how to pull off using two 600EX-RTs, and shooting hand held, could be a stretch. That's a lotta kit to hold steady, not to mention brackets, and the downspouts, and polarizers with flashlights. :mad:




  
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Nov 16, 2012 12:17 |  #7

Pi_314 wrote in post #15253516 (external link)
Not sure how to pull off using two 600EX-RTs, and shooting hand held, could be a stretch. That's a lotta kit to hold steady, not to mention brackets, and the downspouts, and polarizers with flashlights. :mad:

Time to break out a piece of metal, a hammer, and the drill press :D I made my own macro bracket, and I think you could make yours likely the same size or smaller than mine(because i have a rather large diffuser). I added a little wood handle, which helps with keeping it steady and the weight. I still need to work on making mine lighter weight though :(


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Nov 16, 2012 13:36 |  #8

Interesting post, thanks for sharing.


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Nov 16, 2012 15:12 |  #9

TheLostVertex wrote in post #15253545 (external link)
Time to break out a piece of metal, a hammer, and the drill press :D I made my own macro bracket, and I think you could make yours likely the same size or smaller than mine(because i have a rather large diffuser). I added a little wood handle, which helps with keeping it steady and the weight. I still need to work on making mine lighter weight though :(

Definitely looking into this, as the options available for sale are either to flimsy, way to expensive, or add to much weight to the rig.




  
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