Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
Thread started 16 Nov 2012 (Friday) 18:40
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Yep, another 70-200 question. Weight/Handling

 
jbrand
Member
Avatar
182 posts
Joined Dec 2009
     
Nov 16, 2012 18:40 |  #1

I'm saving for a 70-200. I've historically been pretty much a prime lens guy, for speed, and sharpness. Folks are finally convincing me I'm not giving up much (if anything) here.

I really want a 2.8. I don't think I'd be happy with an f4. Even at 2.8 it will one of the slower lenses in my bag.

I am most concerned with weight/handling. I'm in the process of selling a 150-500 (my only zoom). I really like the lens, but I find i just don't carry it/use it much due to weight/handling. I realize that is in a different league, but still concerned.

Is there a big difference in weight/balance hand-hold-ability between the Canon IS/Non-IS/Sigma options in this range? Does IS add much weight? Truthfully, I am leaning toward the canon 2.8 non-is, as I have the 200 2.8L, and do not really feel the lack of IS there. I don't know if I could swing the canon 2.8 IS II anyway. I generally buy used, but that can still be alot of shekels.

I would truly value any thoughts from folks that had used multiples of these.

(if anyone has a 70-200 of some flavor, and wants a 150-500 we should talk)


---------------
"If you can't do something smart, do something right"
Gripped 7D, Gripped 450D, Rokinon 8mm 3.5, Sigma 20mm 1.8, Sigma 30mm 1.4, Canon 40mm 2.8, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 85mm 1.8, Canon 200mm f2.8L, Canon 70-200mm f2.8L, Canon 300 f4L, Kenko 1.4 TC and tubes, S95, AT-1, and a bunch of other stuff.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
3Rotor
Senior Member
953 posts
Gallery: 72 photos
Likes: 802
Joined May 2009
Location: Oklahoma
     
Nov 16, 2012 20:27 |  #2

There will be a noticeable drop in weight from the Sigma 150-500, roughly a pound when compared to Canon 2.8 varieties. From there the IS versions gain around 4 ounces on the non-IS versions. I've had both versions of the 2.8 IS and I would have to say that they were both well balanced with a gripped 5DII/III, maneuvering is not difficult at all. I've shot 10-12 hours at a time with this combination and never experienced much fatigue. I've shot with a 7D as well, a bit front heavy but since you're gripped you should be better balanced.

For my shooting needs, I almost feel that this particular lens with IS is a must have just because it really raises the ceiling in what you can shoot. I could be panning a car down the highway and turn around to shoot a portrait. This may not be your shooting needs so a non-IS version may suffice.

Since you're coming from primes, you may be a bit disappointed with Version I wide-open but that's not to say the images are terrible. At least with my copy, I found the images quite sharp and plenty useful for me. However, Version II excels at shooting wide open. I have not ran any tests to compare but many have said Version II rivals many primes within this range. Some of the same people also replaced their primes with Version II because it performs so well.


Instagram (external link)
www.jessemak.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DC ­ Fan
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,881 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 53
Joined Oct 2005
     
Nov 17, 2012 01:47 |  #3

jbrand wrote in post #15254884 (external link)
I'm saving for a 70-200. I've historically been pretty much a prime lens guy, for speed, and sharpness. Folks are finally convincing me I'm not giving up much (if anything) here.

I really want a 2.8. I don't think I'd be happy with an f4. Even at 2.8 it will one of the slower lenses in my bag.

I am most concerned with weight/handling. I'm in the process of selling a 150-500 (my only zoom). I really like the lens, but I find i just don't carry it/use it much due to weight/handling. I realize that is in a different league, but still concerned.

Is there a big difference in weight/balance hand-hold-ability between the Canon IS/Non-IS/Sigma options in this range? Does IS add much weight? Truthfully, I am leaning toward the canon 2.8 non-is, as I have the 200 2.8L, and do not really feel the lack of IS there. I don't know if I could swing the canon 2.8 IS II anyway. I generally buy used, but that can still be alot of shekels.

I would truly value any thoughts from folks that had used multiples of these.

(if anyone has a 70-200 of some flavor, and wants a 150-500 we should talk)

With the pending release of the Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 vibration control lens, there will be six 70-200mm f/2.8 lenses of various kinds available for Canon EOS cameras. From that group, the older non-stabilized Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 lens (external link) will be the lightest and least expensive. However, its autofocus quirks mean that any potential buyers should try the lens before making a purchase.

Anyone who is exceptionally concerned about weight and handling should avoid lenses longer than 300mm. Except for the handful of usable mirror lenses in the 500mm-600mm range, all of the super telephoto lenses are long, heavy and often need to be supported with a monopod. If you're worried about the mass of a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens, there's no way you would be able to be effective with a longer unit, especially the much larger Sigma 150-500mm lens.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dexy101
Goldmember
Avatar
2,388 posts
Gallery: 93 photos
Likes: 990
Joined Jan 2011
Location: Scotland
     
Nov 17, 2012 02:35 |  #4

Here are some weights for you

70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM - 1490g / 3.28 lbs.

70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM - 1470g / 3.24 lbs.

70-200mm f/2.8L USM - 1310g / 2.9 lbs.

70-200mm f/4L IS USM - 760g / 26.8 oz.

70-200mm f/4L USM - 705g / 25 oz.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
5W0L3
Senior Member
998 posts
Likes: 14
Joined Mar 2012
     
Nov 17, 2012 03:59 |  #5

I guess I can speak on behalf of OP since i only had primes before getting a 70-200 zoom... but let me tell you something OP, once you get a 70-200.. you will hardly ever go back to your primes lol

I use 70-200 II 85% of the time I shoot anything now... the bokeh at 150mm+ @f/2.8 is amazing.. the IS is one of the best things ever invented.. I am able to handhold shots at 1/60-1/100 when using 150-200mm range and still get tac sharp results.

I'd say investing in version II will definitely be worth it because the IS ads so much to this lens.

This only prime I've used much since I've gotten the 70-200II is the 85L.. 35L has been used 2-3% of the time.. and 135L hasn't seen the front of my camera at all, so i'm considering selling it.


Manav
5D III x 2 (gripped) | 35L | 85L II | 100L | 24-70mm IIL | 70-200mm IIL | Some strobes & some speedlights.
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
light_pilgrim
Senior Member
Avatar
922 posts
Gallery: 23 photos
Best ofs: 9
Likes: 155
Joined Jan 2012
     
Nov 17, 2012 04:07 |  #6

You did not specify what and how you photograph - it is important.
I used to have the F/4 IS version and it was much smaller and lighter. In the beginning 70-200 II's weights was a massive concern, but I got used to it. I even do street photography with it: http://www.dylikowski.​com …photography-and-emotions/ (external link)

You can check all dimensions on-line and decide yourself. 70-200 II is not just the same lens with IS, it is much better optically,it is sharper with a better contrast.

jbrand wrote in post #15254884 (external link)
I'm saving for a 70-200. I've historically been pretty much a prime lens guy, for speed, and sharpness. Folks are finally convincing me I'm not giving up much (if anything) here.

I really want a 2.8. I don't think I'd be happy with an f4. Even at 2.8 it will one of the slower lenses in my bag.

I am most concerned with weight/handling. I'm in the process of selling a 150-500 (my only zoom). I really like the lens, but I find i just don't carry it/use it much due to weight/handling. I realize that is in a different league, but still concerned.

Is there a big difference in weight/balance hand-hold-ability between the Canon IS/Non-IS/Sigma options in this range? Does IS add much weight? Truthfully, I am leaning toward the canon 2.8 non-is, as I have the 200 2.8L, and do not really feel the lack of IS there. I don't know if I could swing the canon 2.8 IS II anyway. I generally buy used, but that can still be alot of shekels.

I would truly value any thoughts from folks that had used multiples of these.

(if anyone has a 70-200 of some flavor, and wants a 150-500 we should talk)


www.lightpilgrim.com (external link) ||1x.com (external link) ||500px.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Greenjacket6202
Member
203 posts
Likes: 2
Joined May 2011
Location: Clacton-On-Sea. East Coast of UK
     
Nov 17, 2012 04:22 |  #7

+1 for the 70-200 is II.
Love them street shots Light_Pilgrim.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SiaoP
Goldmember
Avatar
1,406 posts
Joined Dec 2009
Location: Bay Area
     
Nov 17, 2012 10:12 |  #8

70-200mm f/2.8 IS II is one chunky meaty overweight glass. It is definitely worth lugging around as it will produce images as sharp as your primes. I didn't notice much going from IS to non-IS. The 70-200 f/2.8 is generally heavy.


My Flickr (external link) | Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jbrand
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
182 posts
Joined Dec 2009
     
Nov 18, 2012 09:46 as a reply to  @ SiaoP's post |  #9

Ok, it seems the consensus is, generally:

2.8 is the way to go.
IS is *really* nice, but costs you small amount in weight
The 2.8 IS II is a really sweet lens if you can afford it.

Didn't hear much about the 2.8 non-is or the siggy.

My shooting is mostly action - sports, wildlife, etc. A fair bit of the sports is indoor & night so the speed of the lens counts. I'm not really sure i see myself using this much for basketball anyway - 70mm on a crop is a little longer than I am usually shooting there anyway.

If i end up with the 28, i can see I may have to rework my bag a bit. I can probaly shed my 200 2.8L.

Thanks

Jim


---------------
"If you can't do something smart, do something right"
Gripped 7D, Gripped 450D, Rokinon 8mm 3.5, Sigma 20mm 1.8, Sigma 30mm 1.4, Canon 40mm 2.8, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 85mm 1.8, Canon 200mm f2.8L, Canon 70-200mm f2.8L, Canon 300 f4L, Kenko 1.4 TC and tubes, S95, AT-1, and a bunch of other stuff.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jbrand
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
182 posts
Joined Dec 2009
     
Nov 18, 2012 09:48 |  #10

SiaoP wrote in post #15256650 (external link)
70-200mm f/2.8 IS II is one chunky meaty overweight glass. It is definitely worth lugging around as it will produce images as sharp as your primes. I didn't notice much going from IS to non-IS. The 70-200 f/2.8 is generally heavy.

I'm gonna hafta rent one of these. I'm not really over-sensitive (to my mind) about lens weight - I'm a big guy. I just know the 150-500 was a bit over the top in weight and size. It was a bag all by itself. Statements like this do make me wonder a little.


---------------
"If you can't do something smart, do something right"
Gripped 7D, Gripped 450D, Rokinon 8mm 3.5, Sigma 20mm 1.8, Sigma 30mm 1.4, Canon 40mm 2.8, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 85mm 1.8, Canon 200mm f2.8L, Canon 70-200mm f2.8L, Canon 300 f4L, Kenko 1.4 TC and tubes, S95, AT-1, and a bunch of other stuff.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tommydigi
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,917 posts
Gallery: 66 photos
Likes: 845
Joined May 2010
Location: Chicago
     
Nov 18, 2012 10:01 |  #11

I had the 2.8 non IS and 2.8 IS II. Both are outstanding lenses but the IS gives you so much versatility. I was able to shoot video handheld and you would never know it was not on a tripod. It also has a closer MFD which is great indoors. I eventually sold both lenses because of the size and weight but I may end up re-buying the 2.8 IS II someday, its really as good as everyone says.


Website (external link) | Flickr (external link) | Instagram (external link)
Fuji X100F • Canon EOS R6 Mark 2 • G7XII • RF 16 2.8 • RF 14-35 F4 L • RF 35 1.8 • RF 800 F11 • EF 24LII L • EF 50 L • EF 100 L • EF 135 L • EF 100-400 L II • 600EX II RT • 270 EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Buylongterm
Goldmember
Avatar
2,084 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 69
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Chi-town
     
Nov 18, 2012 12:21 |  #12

Had the 70-200mm F/4 for a couple of weeks, traded it for the 70-200 2.8 IS II. by far my favorite lens and after awhile, you won't notice the weight.


Christian
flickr (external link)
@WerthLiving (Follow me on Instagram)
Canon EOS 5D MK III Gripped | 35mm f/1.4L | 70-200mm f/2.8L IS MK II |100mm f/2.8L Macro | 24mm-105mm f/4.0L |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Colt4570
Senior Member
Avatar
554 posts
Gallery: 40 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 450
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Az
     
Nov 18, 2012 14:07 as a reply to  @ Buylongterm's post |  #13

I tried a friend's 70-200 f/4 about a year ago and really liked it, but I knew I should go for the f/2.8 and IS because I always try to shoot when there's not enough light, and think about my tripod after I take the shot instead of before.
I got the 70-200 2.8 IS II shortly after borrowing the f/4 and although weighty and not inexpensive, I haven't regretted it once. I love this lens, and use it as a walk around quite often. If your shy though, it does attract a little attention.


Flickr (external link)
Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,837 views & 0 likes for this thread, 11 members have posted to it.
Yep, another 70-200 question. Weight/Handling
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2750 guests, 105 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.