Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (III)

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #15808242
Yeah, what I'm ascertained is that they're pretty much the same camera, but the D600 is a little crippled (I wish it had 1/8000th as that comes in handy when shooting wide open outside).

I've actually used a CPL and/or ND to not hit the SS cap. It works very well.

Hardcore wrote in post #15808325
I know Rob Galbraith did a nice comparison on his website. The other I read was Lloyd Chambers, but his is a paid site. In order to really get the best out of the d800e from what I have read, you have to stop down to the sharpest aperture for your lens. If you shoot at F16 or wide open, the differences between the d800 and d800e are hardly even noticeable.

At F4-F8, the d800e does manage a slight sharpness increase, but I find from my own testing that this is very easy to sharpen the d800 to the d800e levels. Some argue that you can then just sharpen the d800e so that it is sharper once again, but there is only so much you can sharpen an image before it looks too sharp. That said, I oversharpen all my images for print. I have printed crops of the d800e and the d800 at an equivalent of 50" and I could only tell which was which when I inspected from closer than a foot.

For me, the false color in the d800e and the chance of moire is more of negative for me than the slight loss of sharpness in the d800. The d800 sharpens very well and the AA filter is very weak.

Of course, the argument will go the other way as well. I'd just buy either one and deal with the pros and cons and you get to them

This. The differences are very minimal. I would stick to the non E.

rick_reno wrote in post #15808253
I can't take credit for this, found it over on Dpreview by Shortcents

So far as I know this only applies to the D800 and D800e firmware release.

1) Shutter actuation sound level reduced by 21%

2) Maximim FPS with grip is now 4.1 FPS

3) Camera will now auto-recognise lenses at a distance, prior to mounting

4) CF cards will now fit into SD card slot

5) Camera will now appear dark grey in some lighting

6) LCD Sepia, Magenta and plaid tint modes added

7) Camera is .09 ounces lighter

8) Camera will now accept direct RS232 interface for use with dot matrix printers

9) Blutooth mode allows camera to take (local) calls

10) VR now in-camera. When combined with VRII you get 24 stops.

11) Camera can now be set to 11

WTH?!

rick_reno wrote in post #15808244
When I was looking at the 800/800e for purchase, I found some photos done of the same thing, side by side with both cameras. The 800e with a 100% crap was a hair sharper, but you'd have to look at the photos presented for awhile to notice it.

Yeah, I've seen a couple like that (derived from Nikon's site), and the results were disappointing. Yes, they're there, but almost in the negligible category.

rick_reno wrote in post #15807889
I'd like to see them, I've been looking at the 1.7x - seems like a good compromise. Want to try it on my 70-200 vdii (it's reported to work well there) and my 105mm (just to see what happens).

Here are a few of them Rick. You can click to see the original. I edited the colors a bit and white balance and left the sharpening at default 25 in lightroom.

http://coreyhardcastle​.smugmug.com …d#!i=2448893148​&k=9ZHcGj6

Hardcore wrote in post #15808325
I know Rob Galbraith did a nice comparison on his website. The other I read was Lloyd Chambers, but his is a paid site. In order to really get the best out of the d800e from what I have read, you have to stop down to the sharpest aperture for your lens. If you shoot at F16 or wide open, the differences between the d800 and d800e are hardly even noticeable.

At F4-F8, the d800e does manage a slight sharpness increase, but I find from my own testing that this is very easy to sharpen the d800 to the d800e levels. Some argue that you can then just sharpen the d800e so that it is sharper once again, but there is only so much you can sharpen an image before it looks too sharp. That said, I oversharpen all my images for print. I have printed crops of the d800e and the d800 at an equivalent of 50" and I could only tell which was which when I inspected from closer than a foot.

For me, the false color in the d800e and the chance of moire is more of negative for me than the slight loss of sharpness in the d800. The d800 sharpens very well and the AA filter is very weak.

Of course, the argument will go the other way as well. I'd just buy either one and deal with the pros and cons when you get to them

Sounds like what my gut tells me about the cameras.

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #15808341
Yeah, I've seen a couple like that (derived from Nikon's site), and the results were disappointing. Yes, they're there, but almost in the negligible category.

I can't complain. My wife bought me the D800E for my birthday. What should I do? Say "no"?

jdizzle wrote in post #15808326
I've actually used a CPL and/or ND to not hit the SS cap. It works very well.

True. But I was walking around with only a camera and a lens. I don't feel like carrying everything all of the time.

jdizzle wrote in post #15808353
I can't complain. My wife bought me the D800E for my birthday. What should I do? Say "no"?

Or ask for a D800 for the first exhaustive comparison review.

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #15808354
True. But I was walking around with only a camera and a lens. I don't feel like carrying everything all of the time.

It's a great lightweight camera with a few small G primes...or a ZEISS.

Zeiss 21 sample.

http://www.darklightim​aging.com/img/s4/v63/p​1367168924-5.jpg

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #15808357
Or ask for a D800 for the first exhaustive comparison review.

Hehe! I have both and they're excellent. I'm trying to help you with getting the D800.

jdizzle wrote in post #15808366
It's a great lightweight camera with a few small G primes...or a ZEISS.

Zeiss 21 sample.

http://www.darklightim​aging.com/img/s4/v63/p​1367168924-5.jpg

Amazing picture. It goes well with Ohio's current weather (you'll hear me say that about 7 times per year).

The more I learn about the D600, the more I like it. It's just that the D800 and it's resolution.... My sister graduates next month and I'm going to try to rent a D600 or D800 and see how I like 'em. It's probably "pick one and you're like it".

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #15808372
Amazing picture. It goes well with Ohio's current weather (you'll hear me say that about 7 times per year).

The more I learn about the D600, the more I like it. It's just that the D800 and it's resolution.... My sister graduates next month and I'm going to try to rent a D600 or D800 and see how I like 'em. It's probably "pick one and you're like it".

Hehe! Thanks. That's actually a good idea. It will definitely help with your decision.

jdizzle wrote in post #15808366
It's a great lightweight camera with a few small G primes...or a ZEISS.

Zeiss 21 sample.

http://www.darklightim​aging.com/img/s4/v63/p​1367168924-5.jpg

I love that sample image. Makes me want to spend even more money again!