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Sep 02, 2013 14:24 |  #4366

smythie wrote in post #16260837 (external link)
Yeah, a bit of blur or unsharpening in the background areas will help a lot. But without reading your comment my first thought was the good, sharp capture of the rider and bike. Only technically anal photographers will notice the bokeh

Thanks for the compliments. And yeah, I dont think anyone would notice unlike us photographers. Nobody has said anything, but I can tell. I will have to look into working on cleaning up that bokeh. I honestly never thought of doing that.

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I like the shot Andrew. The background exhibits nervous bokeh from your lens. I've printed shots with it and it's not a big deal imo.

I don't know why it looks like that. I had my 35 1.8 on my D7000 and my buddy had his Tamron 70-200 on his (I have the Nikon 80-200 instead). I just grabbed his body and started shooting. I wished I would have had my tele on the body instead.


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Sep 02, 2013 15:08 |  #4367

jdizzle wrote in post #16261452 (external link)
I've heard the Giottos ones are good too.

Thanks Julian. I'll check em out too.

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Posted this on FM and didn't get a response yet, wondering if anyone here knows:

Does anyone know if I have to send the camera back to Nikon within 1 year of purchase (under warranty) to get it fixed without charge? I bought the camera October 10, 2012 but have A LOT of shooting to do until October 10th of this year. I'd rather send it in later.

Just wondering if Nikon has acknowledged this sensor problem and would repair it for free after the warranty is up.

Thanks for any help.

Past 4k shots, keep cleaning the sensor and lots of dust/oil keeps coming back. Here's a crop from the top left frame:

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I suggest that you generate an account with nikon on their website, generate a question and include a sample image that you just posted. They will likely ask you to send it back to them. Anything past the 1 year warranty will end up you paying for the bill. In the mean time, I would rent a camera instead and send your camera while it's on warranty.

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Sep 02, 2013 15:53 |  #4368

Are there *any* D600s without the oil problem? My god, that's awful. I'm shopping for a used one. So far I've only been in touch with one potential seller, but they provided f/22 test shots that displayed the same problem -- not just a reasonable amount of speks, but a disproportionate and staggering number in the upper-left quadrant. Starting to wonder if I'll find any that aren't like that. :(

I'm sure the D610 will hit shelves at $2500 and not be a feasible solution for me for quite awhile, too.


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Sep 02, 2013 17:05 |  #4369

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Sep 02, 2013 18:27 |  #4370

brettjrob wrote in post #16261906 (external link)
Are there *any* D600s without the oil problem? My god, that's awful. I'm shopping for a used one. So far I've only been in touch with one potential seller, but they provided f/22 test shots that displayed the same problem -- not just a reasonable amount of speks, but a disproportionate and staggering number in the upper-left quadrant. Starting to wonder if I'll find any that aren't like that. :(

I'm sure the D610 will hit shelves at $2500 and not be a feasible solution for me for quite awhile, too.

I have a D600 with no dust or oil spots on the sensor. I have about 11k actuations. At first i thought i had sensor dust, but it was just a dirty lens. to check, ask a person to take a photo WITHOUT a lens, then you will know if its sensor dust or lens dust.

If you really really want the D600, you can always learn to clean the sensor. My D5000 had tons of oil, i did a wet clean in about a min. Don't worry about damaging the sensor, as the wet clean only cleans the glass on top of the sensor. If you think servicing your camera is a big deal, then talk to the film guys about replacing light seals.


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Sep 02, 2013 20:14 |  #4371

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I have a D600 with no dust or oil spots on the sensor. I have about 11k actuations. At first i thought i had sensor dust, but it was just a dirty lens. to check, ask a person to take a photo WITHOUT a lens, then you will know if its sensor dust or lens dust.

If you really really want the D600, you can always learn to clean the sensor. My D5000 had tons of oil, i did a wet clean in about a min. Don't worry about damaging the sensor, as the wet clean only cleans the glass on top of the sensor. If you think servicing your camera is a big deal, then talk to the film guys about replacing light seals.

Thanks for the advice. I'm actually comfortable wet cleaning, and already have the Copperhill kit. What scares me are tales of new oil spots 30-40 actuations after a cleaning. If I'm out in the field doing landscapes or storm chasing (my primary two uses), I may do several hundred shots during a session before wet cleaning is possible. If it's a mild version of the problem where cleaning every 1-2k actuations is necessary, I could live with that.


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Sep 02, 2013 23:46 |  #4372

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Neat little feature I recently found useful on the D800/800e. thought I'd share it, someone else might find it useful. When reviewing images on the LCD, you can see one hundred percent of the image right where the focus point was: in the Custom Settings menu select f2 (Multi-*Selector Center Button), go to Playback mode, then Zoom On/Off, then Medium Magnification. Now when you press the center button during image playback, the image goes to one hundred percent magnification.

Yeah, the D700 has that same feature. Sorta ashamed to admit I learnt about it in one of Rockwell's "tutorials"


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Sep 03, 2013 00:20 |  #4373

gqtuazon wrote in post #16261290 (external link)
Thanks for that info Rick. I'll check it out later on.

BTW, looking for a recommendation to replace the plastic LCD cover. Any good products? Some recommended GGS? I have a dominant left eye (although I am right handed), and the plastic LCD cover is pretty scratched up already as I rub my nose and face more frequently.

I've got the GGS on mine, great product. Big improvement over the plsstic one from nikon.




  
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Sep 03, 2013 02:24 |  #4374

rick_reno wrote in post #16261257 (external link)
Neat little feature I recently found useful on the D800/800e. thought I'd share it, someone else might find it useful. When reviewing images on the LCD, you can see one hundred percent of the image right where the focus point was: in the Custom Settings menu select f2 (Multi-*Selector Center Button), go to Playback mode, then Zoom On/Off, then Medium Magnification. Now when you press the center button during image playback, the image goes to one hundred percent magnification.

smythie wrote in post #16263065 (external link)
Yeah, the D700 has that same feature. Sorta ashamed to admit I learnt about it in one of Rockwell's "tutorials"

D300 also has this feature. I found it when reading the manual two days after I got the camera. D200 has also the zoom-in feature, but not to the used focus point.

I did not find out how to use this on D7000, and I also think D600 also miss this feature. This and other features that is missing in those simpler bodies, is what makes me stay with D200 and D700 for some years more (I maybe replace my broken D300 with a D300 or a D300s)




  
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Sep 03, 2013 09:40 |  #4375

I noticed you can't add Flash Commander submenu to My Menu on D600... sucks.


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Sep 03, 2013 10:29 |  #4376

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I noticed you can't add Flash Commander submenu to My Menu on D600... sucks.

Yeah but, I work around it.




  
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Sep 03, 2013 10:59 |  #4377

I work around it by not using it :lol:, I end up using SU-800 more.

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Yeah but, I work around it.


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Sep 03, 2013 11:35 |  #4378

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I work around it by not using it :lol:, I end up using SU-800 more.

:lol: That works too.




  
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Sep 03, 2013 11:43 |  #4379

Darth, what do you think of the new 80-400 VR? The samples on the D4 and D800E look real good. :)


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Sep 03, 2013 12:15 |  #4380

Well, here's my experience with Nikon.

In April, I bought (pretty much in a knee jerk reaction to a Craigslist ad that seemed like a good deal) a Sony Nex F3 with a kit lens. I figured I'll see what all the fuss is about, and may be keep it as a small backup camera for travel since my old P&S finally died.

Within a month, I sold all of my Canon gear (well, one lens is still on CL), and got some Sony E-mount lenses and old Minolta MD manual lenses. For variety of reasons, but the main ones were better DR and low light performance, smaller size, and ease of use with manual focus lenses.

Last month, I spilled some water on the camera & it killed the AF on camera (everything else works fine). The bag of rice trick didn't help, I must've fried contacts. So, a bit dismayed at Sony for letting this happen (yes, my fault, but I had worse things done to my Rebels without any issues) I started looking elsewhere. I was always curious about Nikon, and according to DxOmark, D5200 had even better DR and ISO performance than Nex. So, I figured, I will trade the small size of Nex for (supposedly) better ruggedness and wider lens selection of Ken Rockwell's favorite brand.

To be honest, I was very disappointed. I got a two lens kit from Costco, and no matter what I tried, the shots were soft. Even at f8 and above, with flash freezing motion. Even compared to the couple dozen shots I did this January with an old Canon EF 28-90 which was supposed to be a total dog. I did a search and found that complaints about D5200 softness were common.

The SOOC JPEGS were also a disappointment. I don't like Sony JPEGS because of very high NR (which is too high even at low setting) that destroys shadow detail in low light shots. The problem was, no matter what settings I tried, D5200 had very dark shadows in low light jpegs (at least I couldn't make them lighter without blowing highlights). So it still required raw processing to get properly exposed, good dynamic range shot. I kind of hoped to get better SOOC JPEGS for immediate sharing. I'd say that Canon JPEGs are still the best overall (color, sharpness, good detail if properly exposed), Sony's are 2nd (good DR and sharpness, but colors tend to be reddish and over saturated, and NR is heavy handed), with D5200 being soft, with dark shadows and yellowish / greenish tones. It is possible that this could be fixed by customizing output settings, I did try playing with them but didn't get far.

Finally, the menus... I think it was the worst menu system I ever saw, and that's coming from a guy who uses Sony ;). At least, Sony menus are poorly arranged, but very self explanatory (and can be customized). Nikon menu looked like a total cluster you-know-what, by comparison. Again, it can probably be fixed to some extend by customization.

In the end, the soft photos and overall IQ being - straight out of camera - below what I could get with Nex prompted me to return the kit to Costco and order Nex 6 from B&H.

I am sure Nikon is a great line of cameras, and I am sure if I got D800 I wouldn't put it down. But, I need a small camera with great IQ, and based on my experience (granted, short and perhaps one sided) if I ever go back to DSLR, I'd go with Canon before I go with Nikon.


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