It's not so easy to nail a good CLEAN and sharp macro shot at f/11 handheld... Even a bug

Flash and handheld. That's how I roll! Actually, I take very little macro, but from what I have read, that is the best way.
Hardcore Goldmember 2,668 posts Likes: 4 Joined Jul 2008 More info | Nov 20, 2012 21:33 | #91 iLvision wrote in post #15270520 It's not so easy to nail a good CLEAN and sharp macro shot at f/11 handheld... Even a bug ![]() Flash and handheld. That's how I roll! Actually, I take very little macro, but from what I have read, that is the best way.
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K6AZ Cream of the Crop More info | Nov 20, 2012 21:35 | #92 iLvision wrote in post #15270520 It's not so easy to nail a good CLEAN and sharp macro shot at f/11 handheld... Even a bug ![]() We're talking the 105 micro. I can't imagine needing the DOF f/11 would produce to shoot a bug or a leaf. As I said earlier that lens is wicked sharp at f/2.8 and any other aperture you choose to use, the only reason to stop down is to increase the DOF. If you're going to use f/11 bump up the ISO to 6400.
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whmeltonjr Goldmember 1,363 posts Likes: 3 Joined Apr 2012 Location: Houston More info | Nov 20, 2012 21:37 | #93 JPepus wrote in post #15270516 Nice! Which ones? I just have the 1.8Gs. Same here. William | Fuji X-E1 | Fuji X100S | Flickr
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K6AZ Cream of the Crop More info | Nov 20, 2012 21:46 | #95 Hardcore wrote in post #15270541 F11 isn't very much dof at all in the macro world. I shoot f16 and still wish for more! Depends on the focal length of the lens and what you're shooting. There are times when support is necessary but to set up a tripod for everything is overkill IMO. It's not like we're talking about the MP-E and speaking of that I'd like to see Nikon make one.
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jdizzle Darth Noink 69,419 posts Likes: 65 Joined Aug 2006 Location: Harvesting Nano crystals More info | Nov 20, 2012 21:51 | #96 K6AZ wrote in post #15270580 Depends on the focal length of the lens and what you're shooting. There are times when support is necessary but to set up a tripod for everything is overkill IMO. It's not like we're talking about the MP-E and speaking of that I'd like to see Nikon make one. Nikon 180 macro!
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iLvision Cream of the Crop 5,766 posts Joined Oct 2011 Location: Western pot hole city, Massachusetts More info | Nov 20, 2012 21:52 | #97 Permanent banK6AZ wrote in post #15270533 We're talking the 105 micro. I can't imagine needing the DOF f/11 would produce to shoot a bug or a leaf. As I said earlier that lens is wicked sharp at f/2.8 and any other aperture you choose to use, the only reason to stop down is to increase the DOF. If you're going to use f/11 bump up the ISO to 6400. ![]() I wonder when we will get a dSLR that is capable of producing a CLEAN 6400 ISO image Ilya | Gear |•• flickr
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iLvision Cream of the Crop 5,766 posts Joined Oct 2011 Location: Western pot hole city, Massachusetts More info | Nov 20, 2012 21:53 | #98 |
Hardcore Goldmember 2,668 posts Likes: 4 Joined Jul 2008 More info | Nov 20, 2012 21:55 | #99 K6AZ wrote in post #15270580 Depends on the focal length of the lens and what you're shooting. There are times when support is necessary but to set up a tripod for everything is overkill IMO. It's not like we're talking about the MP-E and speaking of that I'd like to see Nikon make one. Actually, I read an interesting article that I wish I could find. It was a technical article on macro and the effects of focal length. Basically it said that focal length at a macro level. 1:1 at a given aperture does not vary much if at all.
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K6AZ Cream of the Crop More info | Nov 20, 2012 22:00 | #100 Hardcore wrote in post #15270627 Actually, I read an interesting article that I wish I could find. It was a technical article on macro and the effects of focal length. Basically it said that focal length at a macro level. 1:1 at a given aperture does not vary much if at all. In other words, the depth of field of a 60mm macro at 1:1 will be very similar to the dof of a 150mm macro at 1:1 if both are shot at the same aperture. Things worked out on paper have a habit of not working out in practice. Macro was the first thing I learned how to do because my work depended on it and due to disclosure clauses in my contract I could no longer hire people to do my work. The ISO advantage of today's sensors also translate into being able to do handheld where we couldn't before. I have this sitting in my closet and haven't used it in some time, at some point I may get rid of it if Nikon doesn't come up with a mole lens.
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whmeltonjr Goldmember 1,363 posts Likes: 3 Joined Apr 2012 Location: Houston More info | Nov 20, 2012 22:06 | #101 |
ElDuderino Goldmember 1,921 posts Likes: 8 Joined Mar 2007 Location: Denver, CO More info | Nov 20, 2012 22:08 | #102 K6AZ wrote in post #15270442 Just remember that lens is sharp corner to corner even wide open and you have a body that easily handles ISO 3200. My rule of thumb for the 100/105 macros when handheld is to be around 4x the focal length for shutter speed, for the 105 micro make sure your shutter speed is at least 1/400s and you won't get any shake. It's not blur I'm having trouble with, it's the extremely shallow depth of field. Nikon D600 | Bower 14mm f/2.8 | Nikon 16-35mm f/4 VR | Nikon 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 VR | Nikon 50mm f/1.8G | Nikon 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR
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Nov 20, 2012 22:09 | #103 I use my 105 handheld for about 95% of my shots
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jdizzle Darth Noink 69,419 posts Likes: 65 Joined Aug 2006 Location: Harvesting Nano crystals More info | Nov 20, 2012 22:13 | #104 iLvision wrote in post #15270614 I wonder when we will get a dSLR that is capable of producing a CLEAN 6400 ISO image ![]() The 1DX and D4 are capable.
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K6AZ Cream of the Crop More info | Nov 20, 2012 22:14 | #105 El Duderino wrote in post #15270666 It's not blur I'm having trouble with, it's the extremely shallow depth of field. My handheld method is rifle off a bunch of shots when I think it's in focus, and then pick the best one later. ![]() As you have found out macro is a bit different. Stop down for increased DOF and bump the ISO up. At some point you may need to use support if you find you need to stop down to f/11 or further.
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