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Feb 20, 2015 12:42 |  #3376

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Feb 20, 2015 21:43 |  #3377

I have no idea how to shoot landscape, use a wide angle lens or even a zoom lens for that matter! But, I grabbed one of these 17-40's to give it a go. I stuffed my camera and lens into my pack for my evening ride. Here is a shot. I think a GND and ND are in my future! Also, I think it is going to be difficult to figure out how to use distortion to it's advantage vs shooting to avoid it. Regardless, this thread is amazing! Keep em' coming!

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Feb 21, 2015 08:14 |  #3378

Out on the beach this week, it was so cold...a different version of the same scene that I shared in the 5DII thread...this one is a vertical pano...my fingers are still sore and the windburn on my face will take a few days to go away.

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Feb 21, 2015 10:14 |  #3379

^^Very Nice^^

Another from my ride yesterday. Clearly this was not the best time of the day to shoot, but it was what it was. I REALY need a GND. Can anyone comment on colin vs Hitech? Not looking to break the bank while experimenting with the landscape thing.

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Feb 21, 2015 17:22 as a reply to  @ idsurfer's post |  #3380

^^ why not f/16 ISO 100 here? Maybe 1/320. I'd like to see that. No filter needed- maybe light room. What a sick location!


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Feb 21, 2015 20:22 |  #3382

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Feb 21, 2015 21:00 |  #3383

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^^ why not f/16 ISO 100 here? Maybe 1/320. I'd like to see that. No filter needed- maybe light room. What a sick location!

Well, in terms of settings I guess I could have dropped the ISO to 100. But, I have no real experience with tiny apertures. I went with f/10 with the thought that I am experimenting with avoidance of lens diffraction. Next question for owners of this lens is at what aperture does diffraction start to become a problem. Better phrased, how small of aperture are people generally comfortable shooting this lens? Finally, I did do more PP in LR to the shot above than I would like. I tried to expose as much for the highlights as I could knowing I could pull them back in post while not having the foreground totally dark. I used the ND filter in LR to pull the sky back and push the foreground. Personally, this is more manipulation of the original file's exposure than I would like to so. Hence my question about filters. I'd like to snap a shot and have the original file look as close to what I hope the final output will be. Basically, I'd like to get it as correct as I can "in camera". This is my first foray into this type of photography. Sorry for all the questions.


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Feb 22, 2015 07:03 |  #3384

idsurfer wrote in post #17443138 (external link)
Well, in terms of settings I guess I could have dropped the ISO to 100. But, I have no real experience with tiny apertures. I went with f/10 with the thought that I am experimenting with avoidance of lens diffraction. Next question for owners of this lens is at what aperture does diffraction start to become a problem. Better phrased, how small of aperture are people generally comfortable shooting this lens? Finally, I did do more PP in LR to the shot above than I would like. I tried to expose as much for the highlights as I could knowing I could pull them back in post while not having the foreground totally dark. I used the ND filter in LR to pull the sky back and push the foreground. Personally, this is more manipulation of the original file's exposure than I would like to so. Hence my question about filters. I'd like to snap a shot and have the original file look as close to what I hope the final output will be. Basically, I'd like to get it as correct as I can "in camera". This is my first foray into this type of photography. Sorry for all the questions.

I have used the 17-40L all the way up to the f/22 limit if needed, it suffers from diffraction much less than my EFS 10-22...but as a general rule for landscapes and the like, I try to stay between f/8 and f/10.

As far as GND filters vs doing it in LR...whats the difference really, its manipulation of the scene, at least in LR you get more control. Round GND filters are a PITA in my book, very limiting on composition and creativity really.


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Feb 22, 2015 09:11 |  #3385

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I have used the 17-40L all the way up to the f/22 limit if needed, it suffers from diffraction much less than my EFS 10-22...but as a general rule for landscapes and the like, I try to stay between f/8 and f/10.

As far as GND filters vs doing it in LR...whats the difference really, its manipulation of the scene, at least in LR you get more control. Round GND filters are a PITA in my book, very limiting on composition and creativity really.

Thanks for the info on diffraction. I'll have to play with it a bit. With regards to filters vs PP, It really comes down to the fact that there are a lot of times the camera simply cannot capture the dynamic range of the scene in a single exposure, as in the case with my shot above. If I would have exposed for the sky the ground would have been way dark. Expose for the ground, sky totally blown out. I had to find a happy medium exposure, get what I could, then take it to LR to "manipulate" the file to create an image similar to what I was seeing on that occasion. Personally I would rather use GND's or reverse GND's to help properly expose for the different aspects of the entire scene (i.e. bright sky/dark foreground) from the get go. Get it as close in camera as possible. Then take the file to post and gently tweak to taste. I really don't like pushing exposures more than a stop in post, if that much. I think you loose detail. Pulling back on the exposure is a little more forgiving. I'm not sure I consider using filters to help properly expose for the dynamic range of a particular scene "manipulating of the scene". Just my take on it.

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Feb 22, 2015 09:25 |  #3386

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Feb 22, 2015 13:20 |  #3388

idsurfer wrote in post #17443757 (external link)
Thanks for the info on diffraction. I'll have to play with it a bit. With regards to filters vs PP, It really comes down to the fact that there are a lot of times the camera simply cannot capture the dynamic range of the scene in a single exposure, as in the case with my shot above. If I would have exposed for the sky the ground would have been way dark. Expose for the ground, sky totally blown out. I had to find a happy medium exposure, get what I could, then take it to LR to "manipulate" the file to create an image similar to what I was seeing on that occasion. Personally I would rather use GND's or reverse GND's to help properly expose for the different aspects of the entire scene (i.e. bright sky/dark foreground) from the get go. Get it as close in camera as possible. Then take the file to post and gently tweak to taste. I really don't like pushing exposures more than a stop in post, if that much. I think you loose detail. Pulling back on the exposure is a little more forgiving. I'm not sure I consider using filters to help properly expose for the dynamic range of a particular scene "manipulating of the scene". Just my take on it.

PS. Your flickr is amazing! I've been following you for quite some time. Also, I think I sold you a lens a few years back! I just make that connection! ;-)a

I hear you about trying to get as much right in the field as you can, it certainly makes it easier when you get into post production...I guess I always felt limited with a circular GND since the graduation line is in the middle, it makes compositions a bit more limited. I have also noticed, even with my Lee 4x6 GND, that there is a little difference in color cast when using it, something that can usually be softened in post...but it still means some more work on finishing. There is always a tradeoff. One thing that I have done in the past, is to shoot a really quick bracketed burst, I am steady enough that I can get my exposures with very little movement if I am not using a tripod...which is rarely anymore...then they can be blended in post...

Thanks for the kind words...I appreciate it...and yes, the Tammy 28-75 was a good lens while I had it...a good intermediate lens on my way to landing my 24-70L that I can't live without!


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Feb 22, 2015 17:23 |  #3389

Taken from horseback during a trek through the Otago high country in New Zealand on Saturday. I never give this lens enough credit for its versatility and usefulness.

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Feb 22, 2015 18:50 |  #3390

The zoom ring on my copy of this lens seems to creep to 19mm everytime I think it's set at 17mm. Not a big deal for me, but has anyone else experienced this?


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