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2 L primes or the white beauty?

 
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Nov 30, 2012 05:12 |  #1

Hi everyone.
Still in the process of rearranging my lens kit, just got the 50L a week ago and I'm loving it. That leaves me for the moment with 50L and the 16-35 II, and I was thinking to get the 70-200 L IS II, but the thoughts of it being to big and white daunts me. I'm thinking its just to big and flashy to walk-around in the street or a walk with friends and family. Which leads me to think I could get to smaller primes for the price of the 70-200, maybe a 24L and 135L.
A little of advice is welcome from the users experienced with this lens or with similar lens kit.
Also I'm shooting full frame and I usually shot street and landscape, and o bit a people to, friends and family.
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Nov 30, 2012 05:47 |  #2

Just go for the 70-200, it's fantastic for portraits and an exceptional all rounder. I use mine far more than my 85 f1.8 which was my fave portrait lens till I got the 70-200. Unless you want razor thin DOF then IMO the 70-200 will be better for street shots, kids and family days. It's not that big and heavy, you soon get used to it anyway, I carry my 5D3 and 70-200 MkII all day with no problems.


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Nov 30, 2012 07:34 |  #3

The 70-200s are great lenses. Yeah, they aren't very stealthy, but the results are worth it IMO.




  
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Nov 30, 2012 08:40 |  #4

I'm in the other camp from those above. No one can argue with the quality of the 70-200 II but I'd never haul it around while hiking for landscapes because of the weight and I would feel obnoxious walking around with it downtown.

I'd be much more inclined to go with the 24L and 135L myself, or even the 70-200 f4 IS and the 24L.


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Nov 30, 2012 09:42 |  #5

You could always get a LensCoat for it... go camo and you'd be invisible to everyone. :)


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Nov 30, 2012 09:58 |  #6

I had a 70-200 2.8 twice and sold it twice. Great lens but just not a great lens for me because I did not like the bulk and how it stuck out in a crowd. Some don't mind but I did. If I shot events I would certainly have one.

It sounds like you do not want to stick out or deal with the bulk so if thats the case I too vote for the primes. Maybe just the 135 since you have the 16-35. Maybe consider a second body instead?


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Nov 30, 2012 10:01 |  #7

I love my 135L so I would never argue against it, but you really need to get over yourself about the white lens. its a tool, use it.




  
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Nov 30, 2012 10:52 |  #8

Tommydigi wrote in post #15308194 (external link)
I had a 70-200 2.8 twice and sold it twice. Great lens but just not a great lens for me because I did not like the bulk and how it stuck out in a crowd. Some don't mind but I did. If I shot events I would certainly have one.

It sounds like you do not want to stick out or deal with the bulk so if thats the case I too vote for the primes. Maybe just the 135 since you have the 16-35. Maybe consider a second body instead?

Its all relative. Shoot with a 400 2.8 for a while, and the 70-200 2.8 feels stealth-like. But I get why someone might feel subconscious about it if you aren't used to being noticed while shooting. On the rare occasion where I don't want to be noticed at all, the 135 is what I bring. I will even through the TC1.4 on it if I want to get close to 200 f/2.8 and its quite good.


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Nov 30, 2012 11:09 |  #9

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Its all relative. Shoot with a 400 2.8 for a while, and the 70-200 2.8 feels stealth-like. But I get why someone might feel subconscious about it if you aren't used to being noticed while shooting. On the rare occasion where I don't want to be noticed at all, the 135 is what I bring. I will even through the TC1.4 on it if I want to get close to 200 f/2.8 and its quite good.


True, it certainly is an awesome lens and I may get one again someday if my needs change but its not one I would casually walk around with or use for a family outing. Don't think I will ever have a 400 2.8 ( maybe the 5.6 :-}


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Nov 30, 2012 11:10 |  #10

I bought the 70-200mm II a few weeks ago. It's the best one ever.


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Nov 30, 2012 12:03 |  #11

That is the exact kit I want. Just got the 5d3, currently working on getting the 70-200 2.8is ii, have the 35 but thin I'll want the 50 (moving from 1.6x to ff) and will either get the 16-35 or the 24ii.


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Nov 30, 2012 12:03 |  #12

If you dont need 2.8 then you should seriously look at the F/4 IS version. Its much smaller, super sharp even wide open @ F/4 and while it does get looks its not nearly as "hey look at me!" as the 2.8. I sold mine for the 2.8 but still question that decision. The 70-200 MKII is a big beast and I only need the 2.8 for about 10% of its use.




  
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Nov 30, 2012 16:16 |  #13

Kronie wrote in post #15308635 (external link)
If you dont need 2.8 then you should seriously look at the F/4 IS version. Its much smaller, super sharp even wide open @ F/4 and while it does get looks its not nearly as "hey look at me!" as the 2.8. I sold mine for the 2.8 but still question that decision. The 70-200 MKII is a big beast and I only need the 2.8 for about 10% of its use.

that's my problem, do I NEED 2.8 or is F4 sufficient? Tough one to answer without buying one and trying it out for a while.

Do I buy a 2.8 and set it to f4 to see if that's good enough, or buy the F4 and see if I ever regret not having f2.8?

I shot the 2.8 version this fall (borrowed) and was happy with the results at f4 on my t3i, however that was mid-day, outside during my kid's soccer games. If it was an evening game, I may have wanted to push for f2.8.




  
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Nov 30, 2012 16:34 as a reply to  @ Blubayou's post |  #14

If you dont need 2.8 then you should seriously look at the F/4 IS version. Its much smaller, super sharp even wide open @ F/4 and while it does get looks its not nearly as "hey look at me!" as the 2.8.

That was my thought as well. The f/4 IS is a spectacular lens, costs about half as much, and weighs about half as much. If you can't borrow a 2.8 to see if you need it, you might find it worth renting one before buying, given how expensive and heavy the thing is.


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Nov 30, 2012 16:40 as a reply to  @ Blubayou's post |  #15

I have the MKI and the 135L. If I could only keep one, it would be the 70-200, my most used lens.

The MKII is much better (I am going by what people say - never used it) so I'd go that one too.

Some say the MKII is as good as the 135L, even if that is so I would keep my 135L. It is used when weight, size, and being inconspicuous make a difference. When they don't, it is the zoom for sure.


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