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Would you choose a 6D or a 5D2 ?

 
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Nov 30, 2012 11:50 |  #1

Both great cameras. The 5D, Mk. 11 has been around for a few years and of course the 6D is brand spanking new.

With the introduction of the 5D3, the 5D2 prices have been slashed.

For portraits, vintage vehicle photo's (parked) ...the occasional photo of wildlife....mostly not moving too fast...which camera would you choose....5D2 or 6D ?

Image quality, ruggedness are top criteria .




  
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Nov 30, 2012 12:01 |  #2

5D Mark II every day of the week....


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Nov 30, 2012 12:03 |  #3

i'm upgrading from the 5dii to 6d ;)

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Nov 30, 2012 12:04 |  #4

I just chose the 6D, check out the "So who's buying a 6D?" thread, lots of good info there.

IQ is looking really impressive with sample images release so far. There have been RAW files also (there's a thread with a link, but I haven't looked at them yet). So you can check the IQ for yourself pretty much.

Ruggedness is non issue, it's constructed like a 7D except the very top of it due to WiFi and GPS receiver being built into the camera.

Just a thought, if you shoot on a tripod from low angles for your vintage cars, as I do for my motorcycle shots, I think the remote app via WiFi would be a killer feature, as you can position the camera any which way and focus with live view without having to lie on the ground trying to look at the LCD screen.

That alone, plus the fact that its 4 years newer, was enough for me to go with a 6D.


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Nov 30, 2012 12:05 |  #5

Isn't it still too early to say? The camera is just now coming out and without being able to see some real world testing and some sample raw files, how can one make a determination.

But is an answer yo seek, for me, if the 6D provides the same IQ as the MkII, then I have no interest in upgrading. If the 6D significantly improves the IQ, then I might possible upgrade. If the 6D can match the SOny Exmore sensor in IQ then I will most definitely upgrade.


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Nov 30, 2012 12:05 |  #6

I think the 6D is godsend for a 'realtime print' event photographer... :D




  
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Nov 30, 2012 12:06 |  #7

ddk632 wrote in post #15308638 (external link)
IQ is looking really impressive with sample images release so far. There have been RAW files also (there's a thread with a link, but I haven't looked at them yet). So you can check the IQ for yourself pretty much. .

Linky? I've been looking for some raw file samples.


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Nov 30, 2012 12:33 |  #8

gjl711 wrote in post #15308642 (external link)
Isn't it still too early to say? The camera is just now coming out and without being able to see some real world testing and some sample raw files, how can one make a determination.

But is an answer yo seek, for me, if the 6D provides the same IQ as the MkII, then I have no interest in upgrading. If the 6D significantly improves the IQ, then I might possible upgrade. If the 6D can match the SOny Exmore sensor in IQ then I will most definitely upgrade.

The 6D isn't going to significantly improve image quality over the 5d2. The 5d3 isn't significantly better, so why would the 6d?


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Nov 30, 2012 12:40 as a reply to  @ davidc502's post |  #9

gjl711 wrote in post #15308642 (external link)
Isn't it still too early to say? The camera is just now coming out and without being able to see some real world testing and some sample raw files, how can one make a determination.

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Linky? I've been looking for some raw file samples.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1252298


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Nov 30, 2012 12:42 |  #10

Unless the 6d's images blows the 5d2 images out of the water, it is highly unlikely I will be interested with a camera that...

- has 1/4000th max Tv
- SD card only
- single function top buttons
- no joystick
- slow flash sync
- outer point AF is not improved


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Nov 30, 2012 12:43 |  #11

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The 6D isn't going to significantly improve image quality over the 5d2. The 5d3 isn't significantly better, so why would the 6d?

New sensor tech. I'm not saying it will, but it could. As to the OP's question. If I didn't already have a 5DII, I'd get a 6D. Better, much more sensitive AF, GPS, WiFi, and likely better IQ (not likely to be much better, but still improved).


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Nov 30, 2012 12:47 |  #12

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The 6D isn't going to significantly improve image quality over the 5d2. The 5d3 isn't significantly better, so why would the 6d?

New sensor. Lots of rumors about Canon using their new fabricating technique, and lastly, Canon needs to do something to get off the starting line. With Nikon now using the Exmore, Sony using it as well and improving their lens lineup, Canon seriously risks loosing the #1 market share spot. They are a few bad quarters away from starting the swirling the drain downward cycle. The only thing they still have bailing their corporate a$$e$ out is that their P/S line and the Rebel line are still smokin'. The new T4i is a very nice camera. From their Canon has totally stalled in the IQ department. If you look long term, the MkII and then 7D was the last big jump in IQ. The MkIII improves on it a little but that's mostly in the jpeg files. If the 6D pretty much serves out the same, then the MkIV will be the next full frame opportunity Canon has to take back the lead and that's another 2~3 years away. I seriously don't think that Sony/Nikon are standing still. Canon will catch up technology wise in 2~3 years only to be passed with the introduction of Nikon's and Sony's new cameras. All that will save Canon then is if they both stumble badly which is possible I suppose.


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Nov 30, 2012 12:49 |  #13

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Unless the 6d's images blows the 5d2 images out of the water, it is highly unlikely I will be interested with a camera that...

- has 1/4000th max Tv
- SD card only
- single function top buttons
- no joystick
- slow flash sync
- outer point AF is not improved

Ok let's see.

1. How many of your shots in your portfolio are at 1/8000, what percentage? Is an ND filter an issue?

2. Who cares, they're just as good. I'm selling off my CF cards. Also SD cards are easily usable in any laptop without the need for a reader or adapter. These days, I think it's a moot point. They're plenty fast, too.

3. Ok, could be an issue for some. Not for me though, and it does have C1 and C2 custom settings functions. Also I have read the manual but can't tell which function buttons may be settable via custom functions.

4. No joystick but the 6D has a round wheel with an inner 8 button directional wheel, which is why it doesn't have a joystick. Doesn't need one. It looks really convenient, actually.

5. 1/180 vs. 1/250 isn't even a full stop. Also any HSS capable flash can be used.

6. How do you know about the outer AF performance is not improved over 5DII? Just curious, because I haven't heard anything about that yet.


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Nov 30, 2012 12:51 |  #14

Thanx.


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Nov 30, 2012 12:56 |  #15

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New sensor. Lots of rumors about Canon using their new fabricating technique, and lastly, Canon needs to do something to get off the starting line. With Nikon now using the Exmore, Sony using it as well and improving their lens lineup, Canon seriously risks loosing the #1 market share spot. They are a few bad quarters away from starting the swirling the drain downward cycle. The only thing they still have bailing their corporate a$$e$ out is that their P/S line and the Rebel line are still smokin'. The new T4i is a very nice camera. From their Canon has totally stalled in the IQ department. If you look long term, the MkII and then 7D was the last big jump in IQ. The MkIII improves on it a little but that's mostly in the jpeg files. If the 6D pretty much serves out the same, then the MkIV will be the next full frame opportunity Canon has to take back the lead and that's another 2~3 years away. I seriously don't think that Sony/Nikon are standing still. Canon will catch up technology wise in 2~3 years only to be passed with the introduction of Nikon's and Sony's new cameras. All that will save Canon then is if they both stumble badly which is possible I suppose.

I hear what you're saying, but consider the following........ Although Canon's profits are down nearly 50%, they still manage to profit 900million dollars last quarter, and 900million the quarter before... Take that in contrast to Nikon who made 200million last quarter and Sony who lost money again.

Canon is in the drivers seat and will continue to position themselves to remain at the top. IMHO folks are making too much out of 2 stops of DR advantage from Nikon sensors. I do believe Canon will eventually design a sensor that will equal or better Dynamic range of Sony sensors, but with that said, I don't believe that's going to happen with the FF entry level 6d... I could be wrong, as I've been before, but I don't think now's the time or with the 6d.


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