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Mar 05, 2013 14:32 |  #1786

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Mar 05, 2013 14:55 |  #1787

3DZukini wrote in post #15676293 (external link)
Hey Alex, you had a 60D right? What are your thoughts on the 6D vs. the 60D?

I'm still shooting my 60D and will keep it, but considering adding the 6D as my main portrait camera and 60D as backup/everyday camera.

I can't speak for Alex, but I shoot a 60d and rented the 6d for a weekend.
What I found was the 6d is basically identical to the 60d in size and weight. Shooting a couple outdoors in the daytime with a double sling and constantly switching between 60d+17-50 nonVC and 6d+70-300VC was seemless because the cameras are setup so closely to one another with layout and feel.
ISO difference between the two is night and day. ISO 10000 on the 6d is better than 3200 on my 60d. ISO is where the difference is staggering. Its not even close. Imagine being able to actually USE a 12800 file, seriously. My 60d only touches 6400 when there is no choice.
Biggest issue I personally had in my use was sync speed. The 1/250 sync of the 60d was the one thing I was forced to grab the 60d for because the 6d just wasn't fast enough to freeze the action I was shooting. Normal posing though, no issue. 6d focusing was fast and accurate with no issues the entire weeked and in all lighting situations.
The wifi option (I didn't try out) I'm sure is why Canon decided to forgo a swivel screen, because your phone or tablet can be your "swivel screen" but I would rather it had a 60d type screen. Canon made so many choices to consumerize ;) the 6d that a swivel screen would have made sense. I can't just grab my camera and flip out the screen for a crazy angle or selfie, I have to pull out my phone to? Why not give us both ;)

Bottom line, the 6d, much like the 60d, got bashed for being "dumbed down" too much on paper but in practice, proves to be a very good camera and will sell very well.


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Mar 05, 2013 15:23 |  #1788

Some test shots from the 6D

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Mar 05, 2013 15:24 |  #1789

^ pretty much. 60d on steroids!


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Mar 05, 2013 15:36 |  #1790
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BrickR wrote in post #15680282 (external link)
I can't speak for Alex, but I shoot a 60d and rented the 6d for a weekend.
What I found was the 6d is basically identical to the 60d in size and weight. Shooting a couple outdoors in the daytime with a double sling and constantly switching between 60d+17-50 nonVC and 6d+70-300VC was seemless because the cameras are setup so closely to one another with layout and feel.
ISO difference between the two is night and day. ISO 10000 on the 6d is better than 3200 on my 60d. ISO is where the difference is staggering. Its not even close. Imagine being able to actually USE a 12800 file, seriously. My 60d only touches 6400 when there is no choice.
Biggest issue I personally had in my use was sync speed. The 1/250 sync of the 60d was the one thing I was forced to grab the 60d for because the 6d just wasn't fast enough to freeze the action I was shooting. Normal posing though, no issue. 6d focusing was fast and accurate with no issues the entire weeked and in all lighting situations.
The wifi option (I didn't try out) I'm sure is why Canon decided to forgo a swivel screen, because your phone or tablet can be your "swivel screen" but I would rather it had a 60d type screen. Canon made so many choices to consumerize ;) the 6d that a swivel screen would have made sense. I can't just grab my camera and flip out the screen for a crazy angle or selfie, I have to pull out my phone to? Why not give us both ;)

Bottom line, the 6d, much like the 60d, got bashed for being "dumbed down" too much on paper but in practice, proves to be a very good camera and will sell very well.

The WiFi app works with Android, iPad, and iPods supporting WiFi as well. It actually works quite well for me. Have used it for low angle and tripod mounted shots. Oddly, I thought it would be nice for taking street shots with the camera just sitting on a table looking like it is idle, but have not done that yet.


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Mar 05, 2013 15:39 |  #1791
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haha well just because you have a lens that covers that focal length doesnt mean its gonna perform the same way. those two lenses are so different (I had the 70-200) its worth having both. I kind of miss my 70-200 bu now I have this bad boy!

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Alex, how do you like the 27-70 f/4? I just got the 24-105L with the 6D body, but wish it focused closer.


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Mar 05, 2013 15:42 |  #1792

BrickR wrote in post #15680282 (external link)
I can't speak for Alex, but I shoot a 60d and rented the 6d for a weekend.
What I found was the 6d is basically identical to the 60d in size and weight. Shooting a couple outdoors in the daytime with a double sling and constantly switching between 60d+17-50 nonVC and 6d+70-300VC was seemless because the cameras are setup so closely to one another with layout and feel.
ISO difference between the two is night and day. ISO 10000 on the 6d is better than 3200 on my 60d. ISO is where the difference is staggering. Its not even close. Imagine being able to actually USE a 12800 file, seriously. My 60d only touches 6400 when there is no choice.
Biggest issue I personally had in my use was sync speed. The 1/250 sync of the 60d was the one thing I was forced to grab the 60d for because the 6d just wasn't fast enough to freeze the action I was shooting. Normal posing though, no issue. 6d focusing was fast and accurate with no issues the entire weeked and in all lighting situations.
The wifi option (I didn't try out) I'm sure is why Canon decided to forgo a swivel screen, because your phone or tablet can be your "swivel screen" but I would rather it had a 60d type screen. Canon made so many choices to consumerize ;) the 6d that a swivel screen would have made sense. I can't just grab my camera and flip out the screen for a crazy angle or selfie, I have to pull out my phone to? Why not give us both ;)

Bottom line, the 6d, much like the 60d, got bashed for being "dumbed down" too much on paper but in practice, proves to be a very good camera and will sell very well.

I guess you mean JPEG files? Cause it would be awesome if that was also the case for RAW files but I can hardly believe that would be possible.


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Mar 05, 2013 15:48 |  #1793

ERJL wrote in post #15680466 (external link)
Alex, how do you like the 27-70 f/4? I just got the 24-105L with the 6D body, but wish it focused closer.

i just got it this morning at work and forgot camera at home. i have a three day weekend coming. gonna test the **** out of it so stand by! lol


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Mar 05, 2013 16:04 as a reply to  @ AlexTakesPhotos's post |  #1794

BrickR wrote in post #15680282 (external link)
I can't speak for Alex, but I shoot a 60d and rented the 6d for a weekend.
What I found was the 6d is basically identical to the 60d in size and weight. Shooting a couple outdoors in the daytime with a double sling and constantly switching between 60d+17-50 nonVC and 6d+70-300VC was seemless because the cameras are setup so closely to one another with layout and feel.
ISO difference between the two is night and day. ISO 10000 on the 6d is better than 3200 on my 60d. ISO is where the difference is staggering. Its not even close. Imagine being able to actually USE a 12800 file, seriously. My 60d only touches 6400 when there is no choice.
Biggest issue I personally had in my use was sync speed. The 1/250 sync of the 60d was the one thing I was forced to grab the 60d for because the 6d just wasn't fast enough to freeze the action I was shooting. Normal posing though, no issue. 6d focusing was fast and accurate with no issues the entire weeked and in all lighting situations.
The wifi option (I didn't try out) I'm sure is why Canon decided to forgo a swivel screen, because your phone or tablet can be your "swivel screen" but I would rather it had a 60d type screen. Canon made so many choices to consumerize ;) the 6d that a swivel screen would have made sense. I can't just grab my camera and flip out the screen for a crazy angle or selfie, I have to pull out my phone to? Why not give us both ;)

Bottom line, the 6d, much like the 60d, got bashed for being "dumbed down" too much on paper but in practice, proves to be a very good camera and will sell very well.

AlexTakesPhotos wrote in post #15680388 (external link)
^ pretty much. 60d on steroids!

Thanks guys! I'm pretty set on getting one, just need to come up with some more cash and find a good deal at the right time. :)

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I guess you mean JPEG files? Cause it would be awesome if that was also the case for RAW files but I can hardly believe that would be possible.

I would assume you can at least get the noise reduction as good as the jpeg in Lightroom, if not a little better, or am I crazy?


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Mar 05, 2013 16:35 as a reply to  @ 3DZukini's post |  #1795

Image-stitching software update: Autopano Pro / Autopano Giga 3.0.4

If you like doing amazing panoramas, the Autopano Pro now supports 6D's RAW.

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Mar 05, 2013 17:09 |  #1796

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I really like the vertical framing....most people tend to load them horizontal and that is getting boring :)

Thanks! I like the colors on this image, I didn't really have to post process much (The 6D noise is so low on ISO 6400!)

Here's another silly pic from my Toronto wanderings. A bit blurry due to being hand-held, but hey ....

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Mar 05, 2013 17:10 as a reply to  @ dividor's post |  #1797

Using the built in HDR function on the 6D

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Mar 05, 2013 17:23 |  #1798

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haha well just because you have a lens that covers that focal length doesnt mean its gonna perform the same way. those two lenses are so different (I had the 70-200) its worth having both. I kind of miss my 70-200 bu now I have this bad boy!

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Mar 05, 2013 17:26 |  #1799

Just took this of my cousin and it turned out pretty well, love the details and the sharpness that the 6D has. Huge difference from the 550D.

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Mar 05, 2013 19:48 |  #1800

Yeah, from my experience, with NR turned off, the jpeg from the 6D at 10000 ISO is still better than the jpeg from my T2i at 3200 ISO, or even 1600 ISO. Mainly because the noise is not nearly as intrusive, being white/gray in nature, and not the rainbow of digital noise.

And on a side note, I bought my kit for 2450$ exactly a month ago, then when the price dropped by 50$, B&H refunded me the money (after an email to them).
Yesterday i saw a thread that said that the kit dropped by another 70$ down to 2340$. Emailed them again, just in case :)
Today got an email saying that they only adjust price 30 days after the purchase, and it was 31 days I believe. BUT, a couple hours later, i got another email with an identical receipt as i got on the previous refund, only this receipt was for 70$. So either they decided to go ahead and do the adjustment, or who knows what, but I think i will now be 120$ less from the original purchase price :D
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