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EverydayGetaway
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Apr 14, 2013 20:42 |  #2701

h14nha wrote in post #15828042 (external link)
For the bird, at a guesstimate of distance to subject of 10 feet the DOF is 1.29 feet, for a crop it would be 0.81 feet. Plenty to get a small bird in sharp focus. For the gymnast, the face would need to be sharp for me, and as the shot is faceless, I'm not sure where I would even point the camera from that angle.

So sorry that my shots aren't up to your standards, how foolish of me to take a shot from an angle that I found interesting :rolleyes:

I'm done arguing with you, clearly your ego is larger than anyone's ability anyway :p

Another sub-par action shot from the 6D, and just for you, this time the face is very obviously in focus (even though I find the shot far less interesting than the "faceless" picture I posted before)

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Apr 14, 2013 21:41 |  #2702

h14nha wrote in post #15827899 (external link)
Perhaps its my screen but I can't see any of that shot in sharp focus. I never said the 6D's AF was attrocious, I just stated thats why people pay the extra for the 5D3. You can get lucky with AF on any camera, I have on my old PC somewhere a shot of my mums dog jumping over a log. It was taken with a 450d and a 50 1.8 neither of which are known for their AF capabilities. It is pin sharp. Could I do it 2/10, 5/10, 8/10 times, I doubt it but the 5D3 or 1DX probably could and thats where the money goes..........

Failing to understand your point.

I have on my old collection of photo books 100s of photos taken with ancient manual focus cameras that are "pin" sharp. When will you learn that it's not the camera that makes the photos, it's the photographer that makes the photos. The 6D is just another tool for photographers to do just that. It's an excellent camera at a price point that hobbyist and even professionals can get behind.

Instead of buying a 5DIII I bought a 6D and a 70-200 2.8 for the price of just the 5DIII body.

This is hand-held with the 70-200 non IS from about 30-40 yards away. He was coming in fast and I took 12 continuous shots in AI Servo...only 2 of them missed focus which was probably my fault anyway.

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Obviously some people have more money than sense and any tool in the right hands will show that it is all relative in the end.



  
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Apr 14, 2013 22:10 as a reply to  @ Mr. Plow's post |  #2703

^Great shot.
Are there many 6d users here, that predominately use the 70-200mm IS II lens?


Sold my first DSLR & lens = 6D (24-105L) & (40)
Now what prime should i get with the 7d mark ii?...

  
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Apr 14, 2013 22:51 |  #2704

usdm wrote in post #15828154 (external link)
Yeah, the manual sucks. I dont even botehr looking at it. The manual I got with my T3i was more comprehensive for pete sake. Anyway:


go to menu

scroll to camera icon 3

press set button

you should be now at iso speed settings

use directional pad and go down to iso seed range

press set button

you should now see iso speed range. one one side is min, and on the other is maximum. use directional pad to go from minimum to maximu settings.

press set button to select what you want to adjust. you should now see arrows below and above the section selected. use the outer dial to scroll up or down in the iso adjustment. once you are at your desired level, press set button to lock in the choice.

do the same for the other section if you wish.

once done, use the directional pad to go to either ok, or, cancel.

i thik you can figure out the rest.

thank you


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Apr 14, 2013 23:48 |  #2705

Why is there is so much hatred for this camera? I read it all over the place - more so than any other model it seems.
It's like everyone with 5d3 feels threatened or something so they have to go out of their way to trash talk the camera or trash talk the owners of them if they try and take a photo of anything other than a static subject.
I don't get it.




  
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Apr 15, 2013 00:27 |  #2706

Sea bass wrote in post #15828720 (external link)
Why is there is so much hatred for this camera? I read it all over the place - more so than any other model it seems.
It's like everyone with 5d3 feels threatened or something so they have to go out of their way to trash talk the camera or trash talk the owners of them if they try and take a photo of anything other than a static subject.
I don't get it.

This.


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Apr 15, 2013 01:10 |  #2707

Sea bass wrote in post #15828720 (external link)
Why is there is so much hatred for this camera? I read it all over the place - more so than any other model it seems.
It's like everyone with 5d3 feels threatened or something so they have to go out of their way to trash talk the camera or trash talk the owners of them if they try and take a photo of anything other than a static subject.
I don't get it.

Basically; it's not a direct upgrade for anything in the current lineup; and when compared a:b against it's most obvious competitor; it loses almost across the board in specs (d600).

On top of that; when it was announced people were heavily pining for a replacement to the 7D; which is exactly what the 6D isn't (low focus point count; relatively low fps).

All of those complaints are valid; but none of them address what the 6D excels at (and my reason for buying): relatively compact low light travel camera.


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Apr 15, 2013 05:44 |  #2708

my first full day with this body and freakin lovin it... such a steal for under $1500, left my 5D mark 3 at home and just walked around all over the city today with the 6D around my neck

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Apr 15, 2013 06:12 |  #2709

Sea bass wrote in post #15828720 (external link)
Why is there is so much hatred for this camera? I read it all over the place - more so than any other model it seems.
It's like everyone with 5d3 feels threatened or something so they have to go out of their way to trash talk the camera or trash talk the owners of them if they try and take a photo of anything other than a static subject.
I don't get it.

I think the biggest problem with the 6D is that it only has 1 crosstype AF point. Just about every Canon DSLR you can buy new right now has at least 9 crosstype AF points (650D, 700D, 60D, 7D, 5D3, 1Dx). The first 4 are also cheaper than the 6D. For many people that is unacceptable. If all 11 AF points were crosstype, people wouldn't be complaining so much.


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Apr 15, 2013 06:33 |  #2710

alvinkclee wrote in post #15829121 (external link)
my first full day with this body and freakin lovin it... such a steal for under $1500, left my 5D mark 3 at home and just walked around all over the city today with the 6D around my neck

You make food look so good! :)


Where did you get the 6D for under $1500? :eek:


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Apr 15, 2013 06:47 |  #2711

jocau wrote in post #15829168 (external link)
I think the biggest problem with the 6D is that it only has 1 crosstype AF point. Just about every Canon DSLR you can buy new right now has at least 9 crosstype AF points (650D, 700D, 60D, 7D, 5D3, 1Dx). The first 4 are also cheaper than the 6D. For many people that is unacceptable. If all 11 AF points were crosstype, people wouldn't be complaining so much.

The first 4 are not full frame. The 6D is an entry level full frame camera. Canon will obviously leave features out as to not compete with other full frame cameras in their lineup. Why buy a 5DIII if the 6D has similar specs, excellent image quality, more modern features and over $1000 less?

I can understand complaining about the 6D if there was something wrong with it but I will never understand complaining about the actual product itself. If there is something I don't like I simply don't buy it.

If people are complaining about the 6D in effort to show Canon their distaste with a product the only way to do that is by not opening your wallet.




  
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Apr 15, 2013 07:45 |  #2712

After a week of use I can say that this camera is for me a great upgrade from my 50d .
The af is as good if not better in good light and way better in low light.The resolution
and dynamic range compared to the 50d is just wow .
I do not intend on using wi-fi or gps so wish the 6D (N) was available to buy .
My use is mainly portraits and a few landscapes and for this I find it a perfect fit ( for now lol ).


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Apr 15, 2013 07:46 |  #2713

Mr. Plow wrote in post #15829235 (external link)
The first 4 are not full frame. The 6D is an entry level full frame camera. Canon will obviously leave features out as to not compete with other full frame cameras in their lineup. Why buy a 5DIII if the 6D has similar specs, excellent image quality, more modern features and over $1000 less?

I can understand complaining about the 6D if there was something wrong with it but I will never understand complaining about the actual product itself. If there is something I don't like I simply don't buy it.

If people are complaining about the 6D in effort to show Canon their distaste with a product the only way to do that is by not opening your wallet.

The first 4 are not full frame. The D600 is an entry level full frame camera. Nikon will obviously leave features out as to not compete with other full frame cameras in their lineup. Why buy a D800 if the D600 has similar specs, excellent image quality, more modern features and over $1000 less?


Not to be pedantic; but I think it illustrates allot of the complaints. The d600 was also launched first; just before the 6D; so there's no way to escape the comparison.


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Apr 15, 2013 08:38 |  #2714

w0m wrote in post #15829340 (external link)
The first 4 are not full frame. The D600 is an entry level full frame camera. Nikon will obviously leave features out as to not compete with other full frame cameras in their lineup. Why buy a D800 if the D600 has similar specs, excellent image quality, more modern features and over $1000 less?


Not to be pedantic; but I think it illustrates allot of the complaints. The d600 was also launched first; just before the 6D; so there's no way to escape the comparison.

That's just it though...it doesn't illustrate any point because you are comparing two completely different companies that do business in completely different ways. Canon/Nikon can do whatever they want with their products and you can choose to buy it or not.

If Nikon is a more appealing camera to you at the price-point you want compared to the Canon you have 2 choices. Buy the Nikon or wait for Canon to upgrade the 6D specs. Simple as that.

This is true for anything we buy in our lives. Go compare cars, or real estate, banking, whatever. You will always find a competing product that has better specs at the same price point.




  
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Apr 15, 2013 08:45 |  #2715

Mr. Plow wrote in post #15829477 (external link)
That's just it though...it doesn't illustrate any point because you are comparing two completely different companies that do business in completely different ways. Canon/Nikon can do whatever they want with their products and you can choose to buy it or not.

If Nikon is a more appealing camera to you at the price-point you want compared to the Canon you have 2 choices. Buy the Nikon or wait for Canon to upgrade the 6D specs. Simple as that.

This is true for anything we buy in our lives. Go compare cars, or real estate, banking, whatever. You will always find a competing product that has better specs at the same price point.

For clarification, the question was asked, 'Why does the 6D get crap?" I responded with, 'Because of how Canon placed it within it's product line in comparison to how Nikon placed their obvious competitor'. I'm not saying I agree with the backlash; and to be frank I think the fact that I bought a 6D speaks quiet the opposite. I'm just giving an explanation of the reasoning; not justifying it.


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