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Sweetamber
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Dec 03, 2012 14:30 |  #1

Does anyone have this lens?

Samyang 35mm T1.5 AS UMC VDSLR

How good is it?
Are you pleased with it?


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Dec 03, 2012 23:14 |  #2

I love it, highly recommend


Canon 7D MK II -- Sigma 18-35 1.8 --Canon 17-55 2.8--Canon 50mm 1.2L-- Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II

  
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Dec 04, 2012 02:07 |  #3

I have the non video version and think it is exceptional value for money. A similar conclusion was arrived at by one of the photo journals recently as well.


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Dec 05, 2012 15:52 |  #4

soursteezle wrote in post #15323360 (external link)
I love it, highly recommend

Can you show me some video shoot whit it?


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Dec 05, 2012 18:29 as a reply to  @ Sweetamber's post |  #5

To be honest I think apart from having a wide apeture (which is of very limited use in video) lenses are much of the same for video, in terms of being the bottle neck for picture quality with Canon cameras.

What I mean is, When the camera takes video it downsamples it from 18-20 megapixels or whatever depending on camera, down to 10** pixels across, then upsamples back up to 1920 wide for 1080p... Then, the image is compressed with the H264 to round off the edges a little more.

Any difference in sharpness that you might notice between one lense or another at 100% crop is unlikely to make any tangible difference at a workable apeture.

I've got a samyang 8mm, 35mm, and recently sold the 85mm.

I prefer to shoot with the kit lenses, why?
I've found that the option for image stabilisation is more valuable towards the end result than lense sharpness or whatever else that a prime delivers apart from excellent image wide open.

One good feature of the Samyangs though is that the front element does not move or rotate though, so much better for using a matte box or filters or whatever.

In terms of ergonomics / using a follow focus then the Samyangs are a lot better than kit lenses however.




  
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Dec 06, 2012 03:12 |  #6

While I agree with some of your conclusions, in part, lens quality still plays a significant part in final image quality. If you throw rubbish at the sensor, no matter how much the system messes with it subsequently, you will still have rubbish. Also consider the sensor cells aren't flat on the surface, they are slightly recessed. If a lens throws light at the sensor at an extreme acute angle the light may not hit the cell cleanly. Or if a lens has chromatic aberration subsequent messing with the digital data isn't going to remove coloured ghosts and the like.

Lastly, if you have to shoot in low light, fast glass out weighs high ISO every time. And if you want a narrow DOF a big hole is always your friend, but different lenses will produce different boken which is also related to lens quality.

In conclusion, while you could shoot video through a jam jar you are likely to get better results with an L Series lens. If you can't afford an L Series a Samyang is a damn good substitute for very little money.


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Dec 06, 2012 06:17 as a reply to  @ John Sims's post |  #7

I agree, but when you're not in low light the lack of image stabilisation can be harder to 'fix' than nicer contrast etc... The kit 55-250mm is hardly a jam jar.

In my experience with filming things you need to take the depth of field you'd intuitively choose for a photo, and double it to account for the fact that things move around, even if using follow focus. So having wide apeture is of limited usefulness.

Low light stuff, I agree you cant go past nice wide apeture. :cool:

A good trick for this (on a 600D at least)
Would be using the Samyang 35mm with the 3x digital zoom/crop at F1.4, so you now have a 105mm equivilent with much larger depth of field than a 105mm lense at F1.4 would have... So you can place the subjects much further away which increases the depth of field. As well as that you're using the best part of the lense, right in the centre.

Just for the record I'd never at any stage dissuade anyone from getting either the 8mm, 35mm, or 85m Samyang lenses they are freaken brilliant, well worth the money!

Just saying that if using the camera on anything other than a tripod though I'd go with something that has image stabilisation, and the kit lenses seem to do this reasonably well without looking 'jam jar' :)

They lenses certainly arent the bottle neck to my filming skills anyway :)




  
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