7D mkII. What do you think the specs and price will be?

boerewors wrote in post #15341066
The 7Dii will probably have a max ISO of 12800 or even 25600 but it means very little when up against an exmor.

I think you are confusing high ISO with DR.
Canon has the lead in high ISO noise performance (with the 1Dx, 5DIII and now the 6D).

Nikon (Sony really) has the lead in low ISO DR (by quite a margin).
Canon is slightly better in high ISO DR.

andrikos wrote in post #15342458
I think you are confusing high ISO with DR.Canon has the lead in high ISO noise performance (with the 1Dx, 5DIII and now the 6D). Nikon (Sony really) has the lead in low ISO DR (by quite a margin). Canon is slightly better in high ISO DR.

not according to the sample images i have seen around the net. The nikon offerings show less noise at all ISO's and less noise means more DR https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1253750

Release it sooner the better...will get that 7d for cheap.

Elfstop wrote in post #15342882
Release it sooner the better...will get that 7d for cheap.

would be nice.

I suspect it will fall into the same spot as the original 7D did. So that would be a better focus system than the 5DIII, 10FPS, it will have the new 180nm technology for the sensor probably 20MP to 24MP. High ISO performance jumps 1 to 2 stops. I would think it will be released for around $2500.

Here are my predictions as well:

• 20mp sensor with better ISO
  
• 8.5fps frame rate
  
• same 19-points AF system but snappier
  
• price of $1700-1800
  

As another poster said, this is my story and I’m sticking to it .

Improve the ISO, increase the DR, auto focus to f8 and I'm in. Anything beyond that is gravey.
Mike

2n10 wrote in post #15342912
I suspect it will fall into the same spot as the original 7D did. So that would be a better focus system than the 5DIII, 10FPS, it will have the new 180nm technology for the sensor probably 20MP to 24MP. High ISO performance jumps 1 to 2 stops. I would think it will be released for around $2500.

Well, if the price is increased to $2500, then the 7DII will not be in the same spot as the original 7D.

Staying in the original spot means that the price will have to remain the same (more or less).
This in turn means that the specs will remain the same too (more or less).

The question is, is there a need for the 7DII to move upwards in the lineup?
I believe the answer is no.

With the 6D and the 5DIII, Canon has the $2000-3000 price bracket covered.
I don't believe that they will have a third model in this bracket.

So, the 7DII will have to be in a different price bracket.
I'm pretty sure that the 7DII price won't be the $3000+.
Thus, the likely price of the 7DII will be in the sub-$2000 price range.

Of course this means that the 7DII will have to be spec'd as a sub-$2000 camera.
Now feel free to make your own guesses about the specs .

jorkata wrote in post #15343515
The question is, is there a need for the 7DII to move upwards in the lineup?
I believe the answer is no.

I believe the answer is yes.

When the 7D was launched it was designed to fill the gap between the xxD and the 1D series. And it did an excellent job. But now that the APS-H range has been discontinued there is a yawning chasm between the 7D and the 1Dx, while the gap between the xxD and 7D doesn't seem so large. So I really wouldn't be surprised to see the 7D move up to be closer to where the 1D MkIV was.

hollis_f wrote in post #15343752
I believe the answer is yes.

When the 7D was launched it was designed to fill the gap between the xxD and the 1D series. And it did an excellent job. But now that the APS-H range has been discontinued there is a yawning chasm between the 7D and the 1Dx, while the gap between the xxD and 7D doesn't seem so large. So I really wouldn't be surprised to see the 7D move up to be closer to where the 1D MkIV was.

I think that what you're saying is quite likely correct (unless you are implying that it will be APS-H, that I don't see happening). I see the 7D mark II being priced very close to or the same as the 6D, having a improved AF system (5D mark III level or better), having around a stop better ISO performance and having 10-12 FPS. What I don't see happening is a much higher megapixel count (maximum it will be is 20, I think) or any of the little things from elsewhere in the range (swivel screen, wi-fi, GPS ect.). This will give people an option between an ideal action camera and an ideal portraiture/landscape/​city ect. camera for $2000US

So to sum it up:
-$2000US (A$2400)
-5D mark III or better AF
-~A stop better ISO performance
-10-12 FPS
-Less than 20 megapixels

Edit: I would love a FULL SPEED SD card slot in addition to the CF card because I plan on making this my next camera and by that point I imagine I will have a decent collection of SD cards and because most computers, including my own, have built in SD card slots so its just one less thing to carry. I wouldn't bet on it though.

JHowland wrote in post #15344008
What I don't see happening is a much higher megapixel count (maximum it will be is 20, I think) or any of the little things from elsewhere in the range (swivel screen, wi-fi, GPS ect.). This will give people an option between an ideal action camera

I would love to have GPS built-in to the camera. When shooting wildlife in places like Africa it can be very useful to know exactly where a shot was taken.

hollis_f wrote in post #15343752
I believe the answer is yes.

When the 7D was launched it was designed to fill the gap between the xxD and the 1D series. And it did an excellent job. But now that the APS-H range has been discontinued there is a yawning chasm between the 7D and the 1Dx, while the gap between the xxD and 7D doesn't seem so large. So I really wouldn't be surprised to see the 7D move up to be closer to where the 1D MkIV was.

My thought also.

JHowland wrote in post #15344008
I think that what you're saying is quite likely correct (unless you are implying that it will be APS-H, that I don't see happening). I see the 7D mark II being priced very close to or the same as the 6D, having a improved AF system (5D mark III level or better), having around a stop better ISO performance and having 10-12 FPS. What I don't see happening is a much higher megapixel count (maximum it will be is 20, I think) or any of the little things from elsewhere in the range (swivel screen, wi-fi, GPS ect.). This will give people an option between an ideal action camera and an ideal portraiture/landscape/​city ect. camera for $2000US

So to sum it up:
-$2000US (A$2400)
-5D mark III or better AF
-~A stop better ISO performance
-10-12 FPS
-Less than 20 megapixels

Edit: I would love a FULL SPEED SD card slot in addition to the CF card because I plan on making this my next camera and by that point I imagine I will have a decent collection of SD cards and because most computers, including my own, have built in SD card slots so its just one less thing to carry. I wouldn't bet on it though.

There has been mention of the camera getting the 1DX AF just fewer points.

I think you are no SD card slot, maight be another CF slot though.

jorkata wrote in post #15343515
Well, if the price is increased to $2500, then the 7DII will not be in the same spot as the original 7D.

Staying in the original spot means that the price will have to remain the same (more or less).
This in turn means that the specs will remain the same too (more or less).

The question is, is there a need for the 7DII to move upwards in the lineup?
I believe the answer is no.

With the 6D and the 5DIII, Canon has the $2000-3000 price bracket covered.
I don't believe that they will have a third model in this bracket.

So, the 7DII will have to be in a different price bracket.
I'm pretty sure that the 7DII price won't be the $3000+.
Thus, the likely price of the 7DII will be in the sub-$2000 price range.

Of course this means that the 7DII will have to be spec'd as a sub-$2000 camera.
Now feel free to make your own guesses about the specs .

Price being in the same range as where the 7D was is not going to happen due to inflation and new technology of the sensor, if the 180nm process is used. Remember this camera is the "King of the Crops", or 1DX of the crops if you will, and the 6D is an entry level FF. I agree that the camera won't be $3000+ but definitely see the $2500 dollar price with all of the new tech if it goes in.

If Canon did a survey of professionals with the 7DII as they did with the 7D then this will definitely be more than the 6d. I think GPS and wifi are real possibilities for this camera.

I'm surprised to see >10% of votes for >$2500.

It looks like quite a few people see the new 7D as the 1D mkIV replacement.
Interesting.

Oh yeah, I forgot to add a feature:
Dual card slot: 1 CF, 1 SD <- This shows transition towards CF with only the 1D Pro bodies continuing with it and all other bodies migrating to SD. Makes sense to me.
Since they're so cheap, I can see manufacturers actually including 16GB (for instance) of internal memory in-camera as a buffer for faster picture dumping.

andrikos wrote in post #15345330
It looks like quite a few people see the new 7D as the 1D mkIV replacement.

If the 7DII is the 1DIV replacement, Canon will likely do this:

• 7DII, $2500 = 1DIV replacement
  
• next Rebel, $1700 = 7D replacement

jorkata wrote in post #15345546
If the 7DII is the 1DIV replacement, Canon will likely do this:

• 7DII, $2500 = 1DIV replacement
  
• next Rebel, $1700 = 7D replacement

Maybe they will call it the 70D