Wide Angle --

Hello

Im currently using a canon 350d with a kit lens, 50mm nifty fifty, and a russian Zenitar fish eye, which is wher my problem lies.

Im fiding the Zenitar EXTREMELY difficult to focus in low light with most of my pictures being blurry and not too sharp.

Can anybody reccoment a good wide angle, most of my work is done using the fish eye (which isnt too fishy with the 1.7x thing) or the widest point of my kit lens?

Im prepared to pay about £400 ish for something decent as i hope to upgrade in a year or two to something full frame, was looking at the 17-40mm L canon, but having read around here a bit im worried about falling into L fever, and not sure that i will see the benefits.

Any advice would be fantastic!

Many Thanks


River Cottage

I'm really happy with the Tokina 12-24...
Check this out:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=123983

The Tokina 12-24 is an excellent lens, it makes lovely colors and it's sharp enough, but it's not for a full frame camera - APS only. If you plan to upgrade to full frame then a 17-35 might be a plan. Or get the Tokina now and sell it later, it's like a cheap rental lens, it won't lose much value if you're careful. Get a UV filter for this one, or at leave be careful, it's easy to scratch the lens because it pops out so far - don't try and put it on in the dark.

Hi! Thanks for your replies, it seems everybody raves about the Tokina and that sigma for the extra 2mm I would like the 17-40l for the l fever, but the left over cash could get me a nice camera bag and some lens hoods, thanks for the suggestions, i'll have a hunt round ebay


River Cottage

I bought the Sigma 10-20mm and have found it to be an excellent and extremely fun lens to use.

I personally wouldn't buy the 17-40mm f/4L, it's a superb lens and it would be the first lens I'd buy if I had a FF camera but with the 1.6x crop it doesn't quite make sense... to me.

im not very familiar with the sigma lenses, does the sigma 10-20mm work on FF?

RiverCottage wrote:
Hello

Im currently using a canon 350d with a kit lens, 50mm nifty fifty, and a russian Zenitar fish eye, which is wher my problem lies.

Im fiding the Zenitar EXTREMELY difficult to focus in low light with most of my pictures being blurry and not too sharp.

Can anybody reccoment a good wide angle, most of my work is done using the fish eye (which isnt too fishy with the 1.7x thing) or the widest point of my kit lens?

Im prepared to pay about £400 ish for something decent as i hope to upgrade in a year or two to something full frame, was looking at the 17-40mm L canon, but having read around here a bit im worried about falling into L fever, and not sure that i will see the benefits.

Any advice would be fantastic!

Many Thanks


River Cottage

If you are going to upgrade to a full frame sensor within a year, the Tokina 12-24 and Sigma 10-20 are both going to be next to useless on your new full frame camera. Whereas the 17-40 L is going to make a perfect wide angle partner. For an L lens the 17-40 is a bargain, so you shouldn't feel too bad about it.

The only super-wide angle lens that will work properly with your 350D and full frame is the Sigma 12-24. But I'd say the 17-40 L is a better bet if you can live without the wide angle for now.

No, not really, if you want to use a ultra-wide on both a 1.6x crop camera and a FF then the Sigma 12-24mm is the best bet... but it's quite expensive.

I heard somewhere that the tokina and 10-20 sigma can be attached to a full frame and work, just some vignetting will occur on the outer bits?

Doing the maths that 17-40mm l works out being nearly 28mm at its widest which isnt too super...may plump for the 10-20 sigma.

Its annoying that I get caught in the hype of this L fever, wanting one, and not sure why, I'm even at the stage of keeping the damn Zenitar and loosing most my hair using it and getting the 17-40 l to replace the kit lens!



River Cottage

I am in the UK and selling a mint Canon EF-S 10-22. Will take £430 no offers.

Check out https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=124105

Thanks - Sunny.

More than "some", especially at the wide end. You'll get practically a full circular image at widest zoom.

RiverCottage wrote:
I heard somewhere that the tokina and 10-20 sigma can be attached to a full frame and work, just some vignetting will occur on the outer bits?

Doing the maths that 17-40mm l works out being nearly 28mm at its widest which isnt too super...may plump for the 10-20 sigma.

Its annoying that I get caught in the hype of this L fever, wanting one, and not sure why, I'm even at the stage of keeping the damn Zenitar and loosing most my hair using it and getting the 17-40 l to replace the kit lens!



River Cottage

It's more than a bit of vignetting around the outside. They are virtually useless on full frame at the wide end. Don't even think about it.

The Sigma 10-20 will be excellent on your current camera, but completely crapola on your future full frame camera. Simple as that.

True enough the 17-40 L will not be that wide on your current camera, but an excellent upgrade to the kit lens and an excellent super wide on your future full frame camera. A much better long term investment.

If you really need super wide now and then super-super wide on full frame, your only option is the Sigma 12-24

Sounds great except for your unrealistic pricing. You can get a new one for that easily if you shop around on the net.

Don't forget the Sigma 12-24 which DOES work on full frame, but is a bit more expensive. Another vote for the Tokina here, very well made and hamdles great!