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Dec 26, 2012 00:59 |  #46

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Thanks!

I told them what I was trying to do, that they needed to sit in the same focal plane, and that if I looked at them from the side, I should only be able to see one person. The girl on right had a tendency to turn her body for portraits, which I had to talk her out of.

It was a bit of an experiment to see if a group shot at 1.2 with some distance can work. I usually play it safe with group shots and shoot at f4.0 and above, which I'm starting to re-think. Its definitely worth the risk and extra effort to aim for a larger aperture.

Like yourself, I take all group photos wide open at f/1.2 (or f/1.4 for 35L and f/2 for 200L)

The other way to do it when you can't put them into the same plane is to focus stack (this is helpful when it's awkward to put everyone in one straight line)

Also when in doubt, it's better to focus for the person in the front, rather than at the back (though I always focus stack just incase), as it is more obvious a person is OOF if they are in the front row


I don't take large groups at 85 f/1.2 usually, I prefer the @ 200mm @ f/2 as it gives a bit more DOF but blurs out the background more
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Dec 26, 2012 01:18 |  #47

In terms of the best portrait lens, it totally depends on what you are trying to photograph (like anything)

For example, for night portraits, it's almost impossible to use 200L without lighting/support

The 85L is the absolute king of night available light portraits:

ISO 3200, f/1.2, 1/160 available light

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Dec 26, 2012 01:21 |  #48

This is a comparison between a 85L and a 200L (note slight difference in framing and angle, but the compression results are still valid imo):

200L is more:
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- less distortion (flatter)
- more contrasty and resistant to flare
- more DOF but blurrier background

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Dec 26, 2012 05:33 |  #49

wow that 200L is impressive. I definitely can't swing the 200L. Any thoughts on how the 70-200 2.8 II compares on the long end? I should have mine today (finally) and will be able to test it out.


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Dec 26, 2012 05:36 |  #50

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This is a comparison between a 85L and a 200L (note slight difference in framing and angle, but the compression results are still valid imo):

200L is more:
- compressed
- less distortion (flatter)

For the newbies: The "compression" that you see is a change in perspective. It is not due to the chosen focal length, per se, but is due to the increased distance between the camera and the subject. The camera was significantly further from the subject (about 2.3 times the distance) for the 200mm shot as compared to the 85mm shot.

Please read our "sticky" (found in the General Photography Talk forum) tutorial titled Perspective Control in Images - Focal Length or Distance?.


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Dec 26, 2012 06:08 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #51

I like to torture myself, so I shoot with a Zeiss 85mm f/1.4

Can be a frustrating experience since it's manual focus, but I still love it.


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Dec 31, 2012 06:56 |  #52

I've been shooting with the 70-200 f2.8 II. Not quite blown away by the 70-200....as a portrait lens at least. Very sharp, and very fast and accurate AF, but nothing really 'wows' me about it just yet. Especially not after shooting with the 85L for a week. Then again, I didn't have any shoots this wknd, and didn't get a chance to REALLY put it through its paces.

Have also been shooting with a 50mm 1.2. Not quite as good as the 85L, but very compact and light, better AF, and a much easier focal length to work with. Did some casual shooting with the family this weekend, and its a very nice lens to bring around throughout the day.


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Dec 31, 2012 08:58 as a reply to  @ mystik610's post |  #53

Been shooting some street portraits with Leica MM and 35 1.4 Summilux FLE.

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