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Dec 18, 2012 01:12 |  #1

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i'm a canon fan , but i liked a lot the old nikon lenses and film ,they are so "cold" and they gave chilly image

i liked a lot canon lenses they are and were more neutral then nikon lenses

do you use in camera WB ****/bkt to obtain cold chilly image?

for example on the 5d mark 2 manual at page 68 , there is how

i shoot alway in raw , but is there a way to set the incamera to obtain a more cold image?

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Dec 18, 2012 01:19 |  #2

If you use RAW, you have to do it in post anyway. But you can adjust the white balance K setting (Kelvin) to get about whichever color cast you like. If you want to do it in a more "advanced" way, you can create your own picture style to give your images a cooler look. You can test it on RAW images in your computer, to save some time fiddling with your camera before you're satisfied.


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Dec 18, 2012 01:33 |  #3

apersson850 wrote in post #15380218 (external link)
If you use RAW, you have to do it in post anyway. But you can adjust the white balance K setting (Kelvin) to get about whichever color cast you like. If you want to do it in a more "advanced" way, you can create your own picture style to give your images a cooler look. You can test it on RAW images in your computer, to save some time fiddling with your camera before you're satisfied.

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do you use it ?


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Dec 18, 2012 02:14 |  #4

I typically play with white balance in post-processing. Use RAW. It also makes the picture styles pointless. You can use whatever style you like after the fact.


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Dec 18, 2012 02:18 |  #5

Riff Raff wrote in post #15380315 (external link)
I typically play with white balance in post-processing. Use RAW. It also makes the picture styles pointless. You can use whatever style you like after the fact.

i like to take shoots and be careful to have a right exposure ,white balance ,in short take a good shoot

and after tweak the photos in dpp or camera raw


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Dec 18, 2012 02:23 |  #6

mantra wrote in post #15380319 (external link)
i like to take shoots and be careful to have a right exposure ,white balance ,in short take a good shoot

and after tweak the photos in dpp or camera raw

If you use DPP the picture styles and WB will be preserved, although you CAN change them in post if you so desire.


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Dec 18, 2012 05:34 |  #7

When shooting RAW the in camera WB only affects the preview JPEG that is embedded in the file. It has no effect on the actual RAW data. The WB is only set when you output from the RAW converter. WB in RAW is therefore a purely PP choice. If I think that WB might be difficult due to mixed lighting I might shoot a grey card for later reference, but at the point of exposure not something to be unduly worried about. The other thing to remember is that the choice of picture style can affect the Histogram shown on the camera. The camera uses the histogram from the JPEG preview conversion, if you have your camera set up to produce previews with a "strong" colour cast this could adversely affect your histogram, and thus your exposure choices.

If you want your histograms to accurately reflect the data captured then you can use a Unity WB that shows that data correctly, although this shows a strong green cast on the preview. Otherwise it is probably best to set the neutral camera style, with minimum contrast and saturation. In natural light I would then use Auto WB as it is fairly close. With artificial light though I would set WB to the Tungsten or Fluorescent pre-sets as appropriate, as that is when Canon's AWB seems to fall down. This will show you a reasonable interpretation of the data captured by the sensor.

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Dec 18, 2012 11:22 |  #8

BigAl007 wrote in post #15380526 (external link)
If you want your histograms to accurately reflect the data captured then you can use a Unity WB that shows that data correctly, although this shows a strong green cast on the preview. Otherwise it is probably best to set the neutral camera style, with minimum contrast and saturation. In natural light I would then use Auto WB as it is fairly close. With artificial light though I would set WB to the Tungsten or Fluorescent pre-sets as appropriate, as that is when Canon's AWB seems to fall down. This will show you a reasonable interpretation of the data captured by the sensor.

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thanks Alan
what is it a unity wb?
did you notice that some canon L or above all sigma lenses are too rich of contrast and some sigma (i don't have many but i tried some) warm up a lot the image

to be honest i like a lot canon lenses , i have some zeiss too sadly with manual focus and i don't like so much use live view but seems the only way to have a right focus , did you notice for example the nikon lenses are more cold (seems they turn to the cyan and give a cold image) or maybe it's only the white balance that work better then canon

the problem starts when i take portraits , or body shots (often girls with lots of make up ) and if try to use the kelvin to chill the image i got an ugly skin tones


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