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Dec 18, 2012 13:45 |  #31

Would the revised license apply to Facebook owned companies or just instagram? I don't have an instagram account but I do have a selection of my photos in a public album on Facebook. I'd rather delete the album than have them used without compensation.




  
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Dec 18, 2012 13:55 |  #32

As of now facebook has its own T&C that doesnt seem to contain the egregious language. This might be a test run on a related property before they try it on the mothership.




  
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Dec 18, 2012 14:28 |  #33

Amazing how tone-deaf some of these social media darlings can be.




  
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Dec 18, 2012 14:48 |  #34

sapearl wrote in post #15381747 (external link)
But that doesn't include POTN, right? ;)

Na, here at POTN we can panic. :):)


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Dec 18, 2012 14:51 as a reply to  @ ANDS!'s post |  #35

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Dec 18, 2012 14:52 |  #36

gonzogolf wrote in post #15382187 (external link)
As of now facebook has its own T&C that doesnt seem to contain the egregious language. This might be a test run on a related property before they try it on the mothership.

Exactly what I am thinking. I think they are going to relent soon and revert on the changes, there seems to be a pretty strong reaction to it, and hopefully they figure out that it should never be tried on Facebook proper. There are many pros who use it for their professional pics or to display their business who would certainly cancel, but also a lot of people sensitive about how the content they create is used.


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Dec 18, 2012 15:02 |  #37
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Exactly what I am thinking. I think they are going to relent soon and revert on the changes, there seems to be a pretty strong reaction to it, and hopefully they figure out that it should never be tried on Facebook proper. There are many pros who use it for their professional pics or to display their business who would certainly cancel, but also a lot of people sensitive about how the content they create is used.


Seriously, any pros using FB primarily to display and show their works needed to reexamine their business model. Don't they have dedicated business sites to handle the majority of the photo distributions and ordering and proofing?


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Dec 18, 2012 15:09 |  #38

TooManyShots wrote in post #15382460 (external link)
Seriously, any pros using FB primarily to display and show their works needed to reexamine their business model. Don't they have dedicated business sites to handle the majority of the photo distributions and ordering and proofing?

It can be a decent marketing tool for a particular segment, especially Senior photos and kid portraits. It shouldnt be your primary anything, but regardless it would make your images fair game.




  
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Dec 18, 2012 15:23 |  #39

TooManyShots wrote in post #15382460 (external link)
Seriously, any pros using FB primarily to display and show their works needed to reexamine their business model. Don't they have dedicated business sites to handle the majority of the photo distributions and ordering and proofing?

Now you're bringing it over here? You've already been apprised of the value of FB to some people as a marketing tool. A photo can be stolen from a website just as easily as it can from FB and anyone who thinks it can't has their head in the sand. It's 2012, if you want to keep your photos safe, NEVER put them online, anywhere. That is the only foolproof way.


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Dec 18, 2012 15:37 |  #40

Honestly, who posts sellable work to instagram? This might really affect like 1/100,000 people a year.

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Quote from 2 Broke Girls: "Twitter is stupid, and Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read... "

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Dec 18, 2012 15:42 |  #41

tkbslc wrote in post #15382582 (external link)
Honestly, who posts sellable work to instagram? This might really affect like 1/100,000 people a year.

Seriously the most unfunny show I have ever watched.

Mostly, but occasionally they nail one good line.




  
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Dec 18, 2012 15:48 |  #42
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elrey2375 wrote in post #15382552 (external link)
Now you're bringing it over here? You've already been apprised of the value of FB to some people as a marketing tool. A photo can be stolen from a website just as easily as it can from FB and anyone who thinks it can't has their head in the sand. It's 2012, if you want to keep your photos safe, NEVER put them online, anywhere. That is the only foolproof way.

Is a fact. What is the panic now if a pro knowingly puts photos on FB to expect the photos to be stolen and shared???? Arguing about the new FB/instagram policy would hurt the pros is a bit ridiculous.


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Dec 18, 2012 16:04 |  #43

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Is a fact. What is the panic now if a pro knowingly puts photos on FB to expect the photos to be stolen and shared???? Arguing about the new FB/instagram policy would hurt the pros is a bit ridiculous.

If a pro has displayed work on FB, figuring that it will be copied and displayed as photos are on FB, but the pro still owns that photo and any possible commercial rights. Imagine the pro who recently sold a single wedding photo for an outrageous sum to be used in an ad. Even if he had shared it in online media, he still owned the commercial rights to it. If he had shared it online for the couple to display via FB (under the instagram terms) the commercial value would be lost.




  
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Dec 18, 2012 16:09 |  #44
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gonzogolf wrote in post #15382675 (external link)
If a pro has displayed work on FB, figuring that it will be copied and displayed as photos are on FB, but the pro still owns that photo and any possible commercial rights. Imagine the pro who recently sold a single wedding photo for an outrageous sum to be used in an ad. Even if he had shared it in online media, he still owned the commercial rights to it. If he had shared it online for the couple to display via FB (under the instagram terms) the commercial value would be lost.


This is not what I concern about because as soon as you use their service, FB, you are subjected to their TOS. Is when your clients putting their photos they bought from you. And these photos ended up being used for the commercial purposes. For the fact that the author of the photos, you, didn't enter into any TOS with FB or uses their services. And somehow, they are using your photos for commercial purposes without your consents or any other model releases.


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Dec 18, 2012 16:15 |  #45

I'm going to give more thought to the use of this service. I really like it too. But this is the 3rd strike against this service if they go through with it.

Don't know how this would affect my account (external link), but it I have to wonder if "the internet" is blowing this out of portion in the usual manner. If they are truly going to let 3rd parties use my photos to create ads without my consent or notify when they use my photo in an ad, this is a deal breaker.

Strike 1 - being bought out my Facebook. It always happens "we'll keep the service the same", but it was just a matter of time.

Strike 2 - breaking Twitter card features. Just as Apple and Google should play nice, so should Twitter/Instagram for the sake of the user experience. This was just plain childish.

Strike 3 - change in the ToS. If they go through with it, I'm out as for as a "portfolio" in which I was using it for. I probably just keep a BS one and just post photos of food & dog.


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