Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Computers 
Thread started 19 Dec 2012 (Wednesday) 03:27
Search threadPrev/next
POLL: "Which one"
Macbook Pro 13''
10
50%
Macbook Air 13"
4
20%
Screw Apple
6
30%

20 voters, 20 votes given (1 choice only choices can be voted per member)). VOTING IS FOR MEMBERS ONLY.
BROWSE ALL POLLS
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Macbook Pro 13" vs Macbook Air 13" questions

 
Drakeskakes
Goldmember
Avatar
1,487 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Nov 2009
Location: San Diego
     
Dec 19, 2012 03:27 |  #1

So my late 2010 Macbook air took a spill the other day and the screen cracked. It also has some dents around the corners of the body.

Thankfully, my insurance company found it to be more beneficial to pay me a settlement to replace the whole computer rather than fixing it. So, I got a nice $1300 payment to cover a new computer. After military discount and CA state tax, both 13" MBP and MBA falls right in that area. Here are my needs vs concerns.

Needs -
Everyday computing. Basically this computer will be used for school work and internet browsing. However, I will use it from time to time for some quick lightroom/photoshoppin​g of photos. I also picked up the new GoPro3 and will do some light movie editing while on a plane or something. Battery life is key as well.

Concerns- Pros/Cons list

Macbook Pro - Upgradeable to SSD and more memory down the road (Cheaper than if bought through apple)
Macbook Air - What you buy/order is what you're stuck with

Macbook Pro - HDMI port (nice to have, but not a necessity)
Macbook Air - None

Macbook Air - 1440 native - Nice to have since the new Hero3 shoots in 1440
Macbook pro - Not as good screen res.

Macbook Air- Size is nice
Macbook pro - New one is smaller, but not air status


I'm leaning very much toward the Macbook Air with an 8gb ram upgrade, mainly because my current 2010 model has been put through some heavy photoshop tasking and never left me desiring more. It's performed VERY well. I'm curious to compare my benchmarks from 2010 with the new model.

Also, with Google Drive/Dropbox and External hard drives, the storage issue of a 128g SSD is a non-issue. Especially with a 64gb Micro Put into a Nifty Mini-Drive (external link)

Anyway, it seems like I've answered my own questions, but like I mentioned I love my air, and think I will get another one but the ability to stick a SSD in a Pro down the road will make it a beastly machine and the HDMI port make it attractive, but is it worth giving up a nicer resolution screen and a OEM SSD, essentially saving cost?

How much off a difference will having the 1440 screen be for 1440 videos versus playing 1440 on a 1080?

Thank you


"Nobodys built like you....
.... You design yourself"
www.NeillDrake.com (external link)
Gripped 50D | 17-55 2.8 IS USM | Sigma 10mm 2.8 Fisheye | 100mm 2.8 Macro USM | Nifty Fifty | 430ex II | Timbuk2

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MCAsan
Goldmember
Avatar
3,918 posts
Likes: 88
Joined Jun 2010
Location: Atlanta
     
Dec 19, 2012 08:17 |  #2

I hope any military discount more than offsets the state tax. You might be able to do better by shopping at B&H or other.

http://appleinsider.co​m/mac_price_guide/ (external link)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
328iGuy
Goldmember
Avatar
3,635 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 806
Joined Dec 2004
Location: Ottawa | Ontario
     
Dec 19, 2012 08:25 |  #3

Just as an fyi, the new MBP are no longer RAM upgradeable after the fact is it is all soldered in from Apple. You need to pay the overpriced fee up front for the amount of RAM you want unfortunately.

I know as I had to with my new MBP 15" Retina, yet all my others I did the RAM swap myself for a fraction of the cost to max them out.

Just thought I would give you a heads up, however hands down I would go for a MBP and not even consider the Air IMHO.


R3 | R6 II | 8-15L | 15-35L 2.8 | 28-70L F2 | 85L 1.2 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tony-S
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
9,911 posts
Likes: 209
Joined Jan 2006
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA
     
Dec 19, 2012 09:49 |  #4

Drakeskakes wrote in post #15384490 (external link)
Concerns- Pros/Cons list

You left off one of the most important MBP features - it can take two drives and also be set up with a user-installable fusion drive (SSD+HD as a single volume).

How much off a difference will having the 1440 screen be for 1440 videos versus playing 1440 on a 1080?

Watching 720p or 1080p on a 13" or 15" display will have no apparent differences even if the display is 1080p. It's a function of viewing distance.

Personally, I'd go with the MacBook Pro for the dual drive feature and upgradable RAM.

328iGuy wrote in post #15384988 (external link)
Just as an fyi, the new MBP are no longer RAM upgradeable after the fact is it is all soldered in from Apple.

This is simply not true. Only the Retina MBP have soldered-in RAM. The unibody MBP that the OP is referring to can take up to 16 GB of user-installable RAM and a second hard drive.


"Raw" is not an acronym, abbreviation, nor a proper noun; thus, it should not be in capital letters.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
328iGuy
Goldmember
Avatar
3,635 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 806
Joined Dec 2004
Location: Ottawa | Ontario
     
Dec 19, 2012 10:14 |  #5

Tony-S wrote in post #15385261 (external link)
Personally, I'd go with the MacBook Pro for the dual drive feature and upgradable RAM.

This is simply not true. Only the Retina MBP have soldered-in RAM. The unibody MBP that the OP is referring to can take up to 16 GB of user-installable RAM and a second hard drive.

I stand corrected then, I never bothered even looking into the non-Retina models, so was under the impression they were identical from a RAM perspective. :o


R3 | R6 II | 8-15L | 15-35L 2.8 | 28-70L F2 | 85L 1.2 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Drakeskakes
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,487 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Nov 2009
Location: San Diego
     
Dec 19, 2012 14:59 as a reply to  @ 328iGuy's post |  #6

I appreciate the help. It seems everyone has the same opinion and leans toward the MBP for the drives/ram upgrade, but as I mentioned this isn't going to be my primary working computer for heavy photoshop or gaming. Just for school work, internet and light editing.


"Nobodys built like you....
.... You design yourself"
www.NeillDrake.com (external link)
Gripped 50D | 17-55 2.8 IS USM | Sigma 10mm 2.8 Fisheye | 100mm 2.8 Macro USM | Nifty Fifty | 430ex II | Timbuk2

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ben_r_
-POTN's Three legged Support-
Avatar
15,894 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
     
Dec 19, 2012 16:31 |  #7

Yea Im going to be avoiding that "stuck with the specs you bought" design from Apple for as long as I can. As much as I LOVE the Retina Displays and/or the thinness of the Airs, I went with the MBP for my annual upgrade this time around and will continue to until they are gone. That being said, after throwing an SSD in it and upgraded the memory you kinda get the best of both worlds and more performance!


[Gear List | Flickr (external link) | My Reviews] /|\ Tripod Leg Protection (external link) /|\
GIVE a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Roy ­ Webber
Goldmember
3,187 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Nov 2006
Location: Corralejo, Fuerteventura....Canary Islands Spain
     
Dec 19, 2012 17:56 |  #8

Screw Apple


Canon 7D, 40D,100-400 IS L, EFS 15-85 IS, EFS 10-22-With Faulty USM, 055XPROB+488RC2, 430 & 580 II Flash, Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8-:cool:
Photos (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
328iGuy
Goldmember
Avatar
3,635 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 806
Joined Dec 2004
Location: Ottawa | Ontario
     
Dec 19, 2012 20:14 |  #9

Roy Webber wrote in post #15387170 (external link)
Screw Apple

Jealousy gets you nowhere :lol:


R3 | R6 II | 8-15L | 15-35L 2.8 | 28-70L F2 | 85L 1.2 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ben_r_
-POTN's Three legged Support-
Avatar
15,894 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
     
Dec 20, 2012 14:55 |  #10

Roy Webber wrote in post #15387170 (external link)
Screw Apple

Dont worry, its only a matter of time before thats the only option: LINK

However, that being said, I cant remember the last time I upgraded my processor, or motherboard or memory and didnt upgrade all three at the same time anyway. Good point someone in that thread brought up.


[Gear List | Flickr (external link) | My Reviews] /|\ Tripod Leg Protection (external link) /|\
GIVE a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gooeydruid
Senior Member
462 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Sep 2010
Location: Sand Springs, OK
     
Dec 23, 2012 09:49 |  #11

Drakeskakes wrote in post #15384490 (external link)
Thankfully, my insurance company found it to be more beneficial to pay me a settlement to replace the whole computer rather than fixing it. So, I got a nice $1300 payment to cover a new computer. After military discount and CA state tax, both 13" MBP and MBA falls right in that area. Here are my needs vs concerns.

How did you get your insurance company to cover that?
My Dell XPS 15 last year got destroyed and they refused to cover it since it happened on the way to school and not in my apartment.


T1i, 50mm 1.8, 18-55mm IS, Helios 44-4m
2x YongNuo speedlites, MeFoto Roadtrip, Elph 300HS, Domke F3x, Lowepro 400aw

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dolina
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,636 posts
Gallery: 749 photos
Likes: 3147
Joined Mar 2009
Location: Philippines
     
Dec 23, 2012 10:20 |  #12

I went with the 2012 "13 MBAir Core i7 8GB 256GB. If it was an option I'd even go 16GB and 32GB as the memory's soldered. You can upgrade the SSD later with after market parts.

13" MBPro's nice and all but the Retina Display's the future. I like the option to swap out HDD and Superdrive with a larger HDD or SSD.

The 13" rMBPro's great but I feel this year's integrated GPU needs to be improved before it can push that pixels fast enough for my standards.

All Macbooks are great. I have yet to use one I didn't like.

Yes, you can buy a cheaper PC with the same specs but Apple's Mac sales has been outpacing PC sales for 6 years straight. Apple sells the #1 notebook and desktop in the US despite the fact it is more difficult to upgrade and is considered expensive by most people.


Visit my Flickr (external link), Facebook (external link) & 500px (external link) and see my photos. :)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

3,676 views & 0 likes for this thread, 8 members have posted to it.
Macbook Pro 13" vs Macbook Air 13" questions
FORUMS General Gear Talk Computers 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Mihai Bucur
1122 guests, 171 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.