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Dec 21, 2012 10:54 |  #1

Hi - less than a year ago I got 17-55 + 60D.
Sold the 60 D and then got 7D.
Got the Canon 17-55 but sold that to get 24-70. f2.8

Then got 70-200 f4 is and sold that 2 months ago to get 70-200 f2.8 MK II.

Somewhere along the way got the sigma 50 f1.4

1 week ago got the 600 RT ex and sold the 580 ii.


The question is should I get rid of 7D and 24-70 f2.8 to fund the 5DMK iii and keep the sigma 50 f1.4?

What would you?

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Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS MK II
Sigma 50 f1.4
Canon flash 600 RT

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Dec 21, 2012 10:57 |  #2

What do you shoot? If its moves much, the 7D has advantages. If its portrait or landscape the 5DII will be the better bet.

Sorry misread that. The 5dIII is great, but will the expense keep you from getting the additional stuff you might need?




  
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Dec 21, 2012 11:00 |  #3

The 5d3 is an amazing camera.

I just sold my 60d for a 7d, I would get a 5d3 in a heartbeat if I could.
In april it SHOULD get a firmware update that allows f8 min autofocus so
that will make it a very good wildlife camera in addition to sports, landscape
and portraits.

However, the 7d is selling for about $1000 so that is an additional $1600 or more to
get the 5d3.
if that is worth it to you, go for it.



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Dec 21, 2012 11:21 |  #4

Wow... that's a lot of buying and selling and upgrading... what's driving the buying and selling? What are you shooting? Are you not happy with the results or just want to get the better hardware?


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Dec 21, 2012 11:30 |  #5

Gear Acquisition Syndrome? As the above poster mentions, it would be helpful to know why you want to upgrade in the first place. A lot of people get really caught up in just buying more stuff when they don't really need it.


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Dec 21, 2012 11:42 |  #6

All your gear is high quality. If I had that setup I may add a 5dc just to have ff if I got one at a real crackdown price.


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Dec 21, 2012 11:49 |  #7

Wow! What do you do for a living and how can I do it so I can buy and sell camera gear like you do? Or do you just buy impulsively to have the "best gear"? I'd be more than content with your set up BUT if I was in market to spend that kind of cash I would look for a WA zoom, like a 16-35mmL or maybe an EF-S 10-22mm.

How about a shorter prime, like a 35L or 24L? OR, if you're set on upgrading why not upgrade your Sigma 50 1.4 to a Canon 50L?

I'm just throwing other ideas out there. To be honest, without knowing why you want to upgrade in the first place it seems like you have "gear acquisition syndrome" as SoCalTiger said or you feel like having the "best gear" will yield you the better photos. I can't find any thread where you've posted photos you've taken so this leads me to lean more towards the latter reason for your "upgrades"- not that you have to post photos...I'm just making an observation.


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Dec 21, 2012 11:49 |  #8

jaomul wrote in post #15393666 (external link)
All your gear is high quality. If I had that setup I may add a 5dc just to have ff if I got one at a real crackdown price.

I agree, or even a 5DII which is selling in the $1500 range lately. If they get much cheaper, I'll have to buy one myself. :)


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Dec 21, 2012 12:02 |  #9

SoCalTiger wrote in post #15393616 (external link)
Gear Acquisition Syndrome? As the above poster mentions, it would be helpful to know why you want to upgrade in the first place. A lot of people get really caught up in just buying more stuff when they don't really need it.

Sounds like a bad case of G.A.S.!

5DIII is a great camera....

All your lenses will perform differently, which can be good or bad depending upon your point of view and what you need/want to shoot.

Your 24-70 will suddenly be nice and wide! However, for portraiture I find the 24-70 more useful on a crop camera than on FF.

However, you will no longer enjoy the same "reach" with your longer lens(es).

Crop cameras can use both crop lenses and full frame lenses. Full frame cameras can only use full frame lenses, for all practical purposes. In general, a kit of lenses for full frame tends to be bigger, heavier and more expensive. An extreme example: I use a 300/4 IS as my longest handheld lens, often on crop sensor cameras, with and without a 1.4X teleconverter. It's a very hand-holdable lens, not too terribly expensive. In order to enjoy the same "reach" with a full frame camera, I'd have to switch to my 500/4 IS - much bigger, heavier and more expensive... and, for the large part, a tripod-only lens (I wouldn't want to handhold it for more than a few minutes!)

So someone who uses mostly wide lenses might be quite happy with a full frame camera, while someone whose emphasis requires long telephotos may be better served with a crop camera.

FF are also preferred for greater control over depth of field... Format doesn't actually change depth of field, only aperture, focal length and working distance do.... But with a FF camera we work closer to get the same framing, all other factors being the same. And a FF camera's viewfinder gives a more accurate rendition of DOF. Plus, a FF camera's less crowded sensor allows for lenses to be stopped down more, such as for landscapes or macro work, before diffraction becomes an issue.

In general, FF is also preferrable for low light work... the less crowded sensors are more resistant to high ISO noise.

I use both formats... a couple 7D plus a 5DII. Best of both worlds. This is sort of like the old days of film, when we used 35mm, medium format and large format cameras for different purposes. However, the neat thing about today's DSLRs is that you can have a couple different formats available that for large part share the same lens kit (and possibly some other accessories)... saving a lot of money and stuff to haul around! In fact, having two formats to use with them sort of leverages or extends the capabilities of your lens kit. Even after three years using my mix of 7D and 5DII, and having taken some 200,000 images with the three cameras, I don't feel any real urgency to upgrade.


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Dec 21, 2012 12:04 |  #10

cisobe wrote in post #15393588 (external link)
Wow... that's a lot of buying and selling and upgrading... what's driving the buying and selling? What are you shooting? Are you not happy with the results or just want to get the better hardware?

You took the words out of my mouth....not trying to be a as@' but damn:rolleyes:




  
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Dec 21, 2012 12:18 |  #11

It's a bit unfair to criticize, even if only jokingly, for his propensity to upgrade. I think at least 90% of us on this forum have so-called Gear Acquisition Syndrome... only not all of us have the means to fund it. Let's not assume anything about the behavior of anyone on this forum... that's my opinion.

I do agree that knowing what is driving these upgrades would be helpful to know in order to advise the OP.


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Dec 21, 2012 12:30 |  #12

Since I'm bored, I did a little data gathering and found that the OP has only participated in one thread that wasn't about buying gear. I was actually trying to find what they talk about shooting, to offer a recommendation. That one thread talked about indoor sports with kids.

So I really have a recommendation, unless the OP is going to provide more input on what they shoot. The 5D3 is going to do better with low light shooting, and its autofocus is amazing. That said, all your lenses are going to essentially be 60% shorter.


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Dec 21, 2012 13:52 |  #13

LoL, I wasn't trying to be mean... just asking the hard questions... most people have to be strategic about their purchases, as money is usually the li citing factor. If the OP can stop, and think through his/her upgrade path, he /she would be able make better decisions and save some money, or use the money saved to acquire meaningful and useful gear that fits his/her needs....

We've all gone through phases like this at one time or another... for me it was when I was single, when my money was my money (except the money I had to set aside for her ring).... but now that I'm married and we have our first child.... I have to really research and justify not only to myself but to my wife why such and such software, camera or lens is a worthwhile expenditure... its to the point that I'm more critical on these decisions then my wife (usually).


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Dec 21, 2012 14:00 |  #14

It may seem mean to ask, but its a fair question. Too many users are chasing something and they think the next bit of gear will provide it. To some extent we've all been there. But when it gets out of hand and you trade one body before you even begin to learn how to get the best out of it you have a problem.




  
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Dec 21, 2012 14:24 |  #15

LoL, I can't really talk too much... I just pulled the trigger on a mkiii... but it was a really long and hard decision for me, justifying the cost... evaluating my needs, goals and what I'm currently shooting and what I'm trending more towards (I'm getting more into portraiture and doing some home studio work).


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