I have a friend who wants me to take portraits lit by black lights only. This has me seriously wondering - do UV filters affect black light photography?
LostArk Senior Member 418 posts Likes: 15 Joined Apr 2012 More info | Dec 21, 2012 12:17 | #1 I have a friend who wants me to take portraits lit by black lights only. This has me seriously wondering - do UV filters affect black light photography?
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SkipD Cream of the Crop 20,476 posts Likes: 165 Joined Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA More info | Dec 21, 2012 13:53 | #2 It depends on the precise nature of the "black light" sources and of the "UV" filter. It's entirely possible that a particular type of UV filter could block the UV light from the "black light" source. Skip Douglas
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Dec 21, 2012 13:58 | #3 SkipD wrote in post #15394179 It depends on the precise nature of the "black light" sources and of the "UV" filter. It's entirely possible that a particular type of UV filter could block the UV light from the "black light" source. Why do you ask? Do you use a UV filter on your lens(es) all the time for "protection"? If so, this would be one time to remove the filter. I've been seriously pursuing photography as a hobby for about a year now. When I started I left UV filters on for protection all the time. But I keep running into more and more situations where they are harmful to image quality, such as the topic of this thread or in scenes with light sources in the frame:
Jeremy Widerman I had to do surgery on this image in PP to remove the most horrid flare to the right of the subject's face. There is another flare near his hands that wasn't correctable. I don't use cheap filters either; Hoya HD. I'm seriously considering just leaving filters off from now on unless I feel there is actual danger to the lens - near sand, salt water, vehicles etc.
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SkipD Cream of the Crop 20,476 posts Likes: 165 Joined Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA More info | Dec 21, 2012 14:02 | #4 I have never once used a filter for anything but the special effect that could be provided by using the filter. In other words, I don't use filters for "protection" from anything. I still have every lens that I have purchased since 1967 and every one of them (though all have been heavily used in a variety of situations including on-track motocross photography) has nearly pristine glass in them. In other words, I don't feel that I need any "protection" beyond using common sense and proper lens cleaning techniques/materials. Skip Douglas
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CurtisN Master Flasher 19,129 posts Likes: 11 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Northern Illinois, US More info | Dec 21, 2012 16:27 | #5 SkipD wrote in post #15394179 this would be one time to remove the filter. Then sell it on E-Bay. "If you're not having fun, your pictures will reflect that." - Joe McNally
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Fester Senior Member 814 posts Likes: 3 Joined Sep 2011 Location: Texas, South of the border of Mexico More info | Dec 21, 2012 16:32 | #6 your question pretty much answers itself.
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Dec 21, 2012 21:07 | #7 'Black light' stimulates fluorescence in some things, which will then themselves EMIT visible light. You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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PhotosGuy Cream of the Crop, R.I.P. More info | Dec 21, 2012 21:47 | #8 Hoods for me, too. But isn't there already a UV filter over the sensor? FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
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tzalman Fatal attraction. 13,497 posts Likes: 213 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel More info | Dec 22, 2012 08:09 | #9 PhotosGuy wrote in post #15395396 Hoods for me, too. But isn't there already a UV filter over the sensor? No, there is an IR filter - other end of the spectrum. Silicon based sensors are naturally not very sensitive to UV. Elie / אלי
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Dec 22, 2012 08:40 | #10 They actually make special UV filters to be used in conjunction with fluorescence photography. As Wilt said the materials emit visible light. The filter cuts any reflected UV that would tend to degrade the image.
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Dec 23, 2012 11:18 | #11 tzalman wrote in post #15396262 No, there is an IR filter - other end of the spectrum. Silicon based sensors are naturally not very sensitive to UV. I believe that the IR filter also cuts out a lot of the UV. Then again, most lenses will absorb the vast majority of UV light as well. Frank Hollis - Retired mass spectroscopist
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Dec 23, 2012 20:03 | #12 UV and IR are on opposite ends of the visible light spectrum and therefore a filter for one has no effect on the other. Blacklights produce UVA which the phosphors in the shirt convert to visible light. You can try photographing with and without the UV filter but the glow is from visible light which your eye sees. You camera sees more than your eye. That is why some use a filter to block it from a camera sensor. Dave
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Dec 23, 2012 23:55 | #13 ChunkyDA wrote in post #15401401 UV and IR are on opposite ends of the visible light spectrum and therefore a filter for one has no effect on the other. Nope. UV/IR cut filters are quite common. LINK Frank Hollis - Retired mass spectroscopist
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SkipD Cream of the Crop 20,476 posts Likes: 165 Joined Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA More info | Dec 24, 2012 01:42 | #14 That, in electronic terms, would be a band-pass filter which cuts off frequencies below a band of frequencies and above the same band. Skip Douglas
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