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ifi
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Dec 24, 2012 17:39 |  #1

Hi,

I've got some money saved up (about 2k) and am thinking of buying a new full frame body. My existing equipment is listed in my signature. I've been reading posts and seems like everyone is asking similar questions i.e. 5d2 vs 5d3 vs 6d.

Question-1:
I'm a hobbyist and almost always shoot with viewfinder. I do landscapes, architectures and portraits, not into videos, just still images. Which full frame body makes more sense for me?

Question-2:
Another question I have is if I sell my non-full frame lenses or keep them as backup?

Thanks,
-ifi


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Dec 24, 2012 17:45 |  #2

Looks like you have some good lenses and a camera for wildlife and action. I have a 5d and I love it coupled with my 7d for the wildlife and action photos. I think you could not go wrong with the 5D II and if you really wanted to save money the 5d. The II has some real advantages over the classic.




  
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Dec 24, 2012 17:49 |  #3

Go for the Mark II. It's going to set you back more than a new 5d but it is a better camera. Keep your lenses at least for a bit and see what kind of results you get with them. You might surprise yourself. If after a bit you don't want them, sell them then.


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Dec 24, 2012 18:38 |  #4

I went for the 5D mkiii... I'm planning to keep my 7D as my backup body and keep my 10-22 and 17-55... (I don't have a ultra wide for full frame, so the 10-22 will be my landscape/architecture lens till I can save up enough for a 16-35...)

My primary reason for going with the mkiii was the AF system... plus my wife said ok to the mkiii :) If not I would have gone with the 6D for it's price and updated tech vs the mkii... My mkiii will be my everything camera unless i need the extra reach... I think this combo is going to be awesome...


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Dec 24, 2012 18:49 |  #5

Picked up a Mark III at B&H when we were in NYC last month. Best camera purchase to date. Well done!


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Dec 24, 2012 18:57 |  #6

I use my 7D mostly for wildlife and a little landscape plus photos of the Auroras. My next camera will be a 6D since it offers good low-light or indoor-shooting capabilities, and the sensor is plenty good for landscapes and the Auroras. The 7D is offers great reach with the lenses I already have, but I may have to buy a 17-40L for the 6D.


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Dec 24, 2012 18:59 |  #7

5d - invest in lenses and then upgrade to a better body later.


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Dec 24, 2012 19:24 |  #8
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I would purchase a god condition 5d...for $500 and spend the rest on glass for full frame. It will deliver wonderful photos of the subjects you are interested in. Sure the 5d3 has better AF...but you don't need that. Sure the 6d has wifi and gps...but again, you don't need that. Stick to what you need and save yourself a ton of cash that can be spent on glass.




  
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Dec 24, 2012 19:50 |  #9

You already have good lenses, so you're set there. Unless you want a TS-E.

You don't need the superior AF or weather sealing of the 5DIII. Take that one out of your list.

5DII vs 6D?

5DII advantages:
price
controls
flash sync speed (very very slight advantage)

6D advantages:
better low light AF
less noise at higher ISO
slightly better dynamic range
Wifi (could be useful for showing the results to the client on a tablet straight away and for remote shooting for architecture e.g. getting the camera right into corners where you yourself would not fit. however, you say you only shoot with viewfinder, so maybe not.)
GPS

Personally when I was choosing, I'd ruled out the 5DII because the 6D advantages were a big deal for me. Better AF and the wifi were too attractive to save money on a 5DII.


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Dec 24, 2012 21:44 |  #10

Get the 17-40mm, your stopping down for landscapes anyway and it will work great on a FF camera.


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Dec 25, 2012 00:32 |  #11

Thanks all. I wasn't thinking about 5d classic but now I am.

I do wish for a T-E lens :)

Is that 17-40 better than my 16-35?


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Dec 25, 2012 02:11 |  #12

Your 16-35 is better. But if you don't use your 16-35 at 2.8, then you can replace it with the 17-40 and get a nice amount of money back.


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Dec 25, 2012 03:26 |  #13

Do yourself a favor and invest in a 5Dmkii or mkiii. The ISO performance alone will be substantially better than the 5D. Your lenses are fine. Also consider that the newer the camera, the higher the resale value if you need to sell it to upgrade. Also, if it needs repairs, the older the camera, the more likely it will be that you may encounter issues.


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Dec 25, 2012 08:36 |  #14

lusospeed wrote in post #15405245 (external link)
Do yourself a favor and invest in a 5Dmkii or mkiii. The ISO performance alone will be substantially better than the 5D. Your lenses are fine. Also consider that the newer the camera, the higher the resale value if you need to sell it to upgrade. Also, if it needs repairs, the older the camera, the more likely it will be that you may encounter issues.

not to mention the 5dc just feels old now and the screen on the back is depressing....etc. doesn't affect iq but it does affect the experience.


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Dec 25, 2012 10:48 |  #15
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lusospeed wrote in post #15405245 (external link)
Do yourself a favor and invest in a 5Dmkii or mkiii. The ISO performance alone will be substantially better than the 5D. Your lenses are fine. Also consider that the newer the camera, the higher the resale value if you need to sell it to upgrade. Also, if it needs repairs, the older the camera, the more likely it will be that you may encounter issues.

Higgs Boson wrote in post #15405551 (external link)
not to mention the 5dc just feels old now and the screen on the back is depressing....etc. doesn't affect iq but it does affect the experience.

The ISO performance of the 5D is no worse than the 5D2, or 5D3 for that matter. Of course, the 5D only goes to 3200. If you are comparing JPG shots from ANY bodies, you are comparing JPG engines, not the sensors capabilities. There have been some interesting threads recently showing that the IQ differences between the 5D, 5D2, 5D3 and 6D are almost non-existent if you shoot raw, which compares the sensors, not the Post-Processing algorithm built into the camera.

The higher ISO performance of my 5D easily outclasses my 60D, which is nominally better than the 7D. The 5D's AF system is identical to the 5D2. I used my 5D last night for the first time in a real-life snap-shot situation. It was a dimly lit Christmas dinner situation. My camera metered 1/4 to 1/15s at f/5.6 and ISO 3200. Not much light at all. I used center point only and go no AF misses I could blame on the camera.

I agree about the 5D feeling old. The menu system is archaic if you have used something newer. The rear screen is also good for framing and histogram checks. Do not rely on it for anything else. I think the worst thing about the 5D is that it has no sensor cleaning system. If you go that way, buy a Rocket Blower, you'll need it.

I think the 5D would satisfy the OP needs with the least amount of financial pain. Put the extra money into some glass/accessories.


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