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i'm tired of 18-55.... what to get?

 
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Dec 26, 2012 20:20 |  #16

RHChan84 wrote in post #15410005 (external link)
15-85mm would be a good option as well as a 17-5x f2.8 (canon, sigma or tamron) are all good.

+1.

Also a plug...I have a 17-50mm Sigma OS for sale here on POTN. Cheaper than the Canon 17-55!


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Dec 26, 2012 21:15 |  #17

First off, you need to identify exactly what you want out of the replacement lens. Is it just sharpness that is the issue ? Is it limited range ? F/2.8 vs f/3.5-5.6 ?
If you are happy with the range- then any of the 17-5x f/2.8 variants - like the Sigma 17-50 OS, Canon 17-55 IS, or the Tamron 17-50 non-VC ...
If you want more range- there are more options today than there were last year...
In real life- I've never used the 15-85- although there were times I wish I had bought one... There is no real place to try one out here in the sticks..
I've used the 18-55 IS, 18-135 IS, 18-135 IS STM.. Looking at the MTF charts- I'd rate the lenses in order of good to worse -- 18-135 IS STM -> 15-85 -> 18-135 IS -> 18-55 IS. As I've never used the 15-85- I can't say if the pecking order is truly 100% correct- but in real life- the 18-135 IS STM is much sharper than the 18-135 IS is.. The 18-135 IS was certainly an improvement over the 18-55 IS. The main advantage of the 18-135(s) over the 18-55 is - range.. The work wonderfully as a one lens setup for walkabout! With two lenses- like the 55-250- you end up swapping lenses less often- because of the overlap. When I am indoors or otherwise need it- I pull out the Sigma 17-50 OS---- when I want to maximize light, AF capability, etc. For walkabout- I think that the 17/18-5x range - well- it's more limiting- for me - than it's worth.. But inside- when you want the most out of the lenses-like sharpness- and good AF experience- faster shutter speed- I do go to it. It's a matter of what is important at the time.

after note: I have been real satisfied with the 18-135 IS STM... I stopped using the other lens (18-135 IS ) when I got the STM.. A few weeks later- I donated the 18-135 IS to a good home. The difference between the two was visible- out of the gate. I did re-investigate the 15-85- and after figuring out how to read MTF charts- I came to the conclusion that the older 15-85 is probably slightly behind the 18-135 IS STM-- and as experience goes- I think I've used enough of a variety of lenses to know that I won't likely see any substantial improvement by spending the $600 to $800 for a new 15-85.. My money would be better spent elsewhere. The 17-50 rarely gets used- unless it's indoors and called for.. It does, however, sit ready- on the 7D.


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Dec 26, 2012 22:03 |  #18

Related thread I started today!
https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=1259​999&page=3


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Dec 26, 2012 22:42 |  #19

If you can wait, I suggest waiting until Sigma releases their new 17-70 OS. If the improvements are anything like their new 35 1.4, it will be the lens to have for crop. Their current 17-70 is already a very nice lens.

It is slated for release sometime early next year (jan/feb, last I read).

If not, then I would advise against the Canon 17-55 as it is overpriced IMO and the Sigma 17-50 OS offers virtually all that the Canon variant does at a lower price. Or if you want to go even cheaper and still retain quality, the Tamron 17-50 non-VC is the best price/performance.

Or if you want something with range, then the 15-85.


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Dec 26, 2012 23:01 |  #20

15-85mm offers great wide and range. Its definitely sharp and fast. I've been using it more than my tammy 17-50 2.8 for my walk around lens. But am considering selling it to go full frame. Let me know if you are looking to purchase a 15-85mm anytime soon.


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Dec 26, 2012 23:15 |  #21

15-85 is glued to my camera, it's very sharp and the IS allows rather slow shutter speeds. My buddy has the Sigma 17-70 and it is faster but in my opinion is not as sharp at 2.8. I have used both but with the Canon the extra 2 mm on the wide end is nice and the extra 15 mm on the long end is even nicer.


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Dec 27, 2012 00:10 |  #22
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I had the 18-55 II. I hated to let it go because it is a very good lens, for what it is. I sold it with my T1i. I was using the 18-135 and was not satisfied, the 18-55 II is actually better IQ. My current walk-around lens on my 60D is the 15-85. It is a HUGE improvement in sharpness, distortion and color rendering than either the 18-55 or the 18-135. It is well worth the $700 I paid for it.


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Dec 27, 2012 00:33 |  #23
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Wayne.Robbins:
I've seen your opinion of the 18-135 STM vs the old 18-135 before. I know you rate the STM version as much better. I was surprised to see that you rate it better than the 15-85. That is significant. I have two questions about the STM version. How is the focus speed? How is the CA at the long end. My copy of the 15-85 focuses very fast. CA at the long end is worse than the old 18-135. Easily correctable, though. Curious about your opinions.


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Dec 27, 2012 03:06 |  #24

To the OP, what do you plan to shoot with the 18-55 replacement ?? If you're a landscape guy then I doubt you'll see hardly ANY inprovement shooting stepped down on a tripod for an awful lot of extra money. If the slow aperture bugs you then the 17-55 Canon is the one to have. The Sigma is good, I looked for one when I bought my 17-55 but they were losing huge amounts of money from new, like 50% from retail £££. Of course, if you buy second hand then thats to your benefit :)


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Dec 27, 2012 06:49 |  #25

thanks guys
your replied made my mind.. i'm gonna go for a 15-85 canon one. .
have to save a bit money first :D
Anyways. thanks alot
hats off :)


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Dec 27, 2012 11:17 |  #26

ekfaysal wrote in post #15411844 (external link)
thanks guys
your replied made my mind.. i'm gonna go for a 15-85 canon one. .
have to save a bit money first :D
Anyways. thanks alot
hats off :)

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