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Jan 01, 2013 06:26 |  #1

Hi all im looking in to nd grad filters, im using a canon eos 500d with 18-55mm kit lens, as some of you know the front element of this lens spins to focus so im struggling to see how i can do this. All i need to know is, is it possible and if so what should i be looking at buying. Budget is tight so cant afford a usm lens.

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Jan 01, 2013 06:39 |  #2

djnick1985 wrote in post #15430360 (external link)
Hi all im looking in to nd grad filters, im using a canon eos 500d with 18-55mm kit lens, as some of you know the front element of this lens spins to focus so im struggling to see how i can do this. All i need to know is, is it possible and if so what should i be looking at buying. Budget is tight so cant afford a usm lens.

Thanks in advance

I believe ND grad filters rotate like a CPL, so you have to focus first and then rotate the filter.

There are several non-USM lenses that don't have rotating elements, the 18-135 for example, which you can pick up used for pretty cheap as people unload it from their kits.


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Jan 01, 2013 10:09 |  #3

Get the rectangular type of ND Grads, such as the Graduated Gray Cokin. On that lens I believe you can use either the A or the P series Cokin sizes. I'd recommend the P series only because there are more accessories and filters made for that size by other manufacturers. A series are smaller and less expensive though. Cokin's filters are relatively inexpensive, as are their basic holders and adapters. Later, if you wish, there are better quality, more expensive filters made to fit the P series size holders... from folks like Lee, Tiffen, Singh Ray and more. There are also handy accessories, such as specialized filter holders (such as for extra wide angle lenses), adjustable lens hoods (Lee's is reasonably prices, around %65-75 last time I looked) and a variety of other things.

These use a filter holder and an adapter to fit the holder to different lenses, each sold separately. You'll need an adapter with 52mm filter thread, if memory serves. You simply need a P series holder for P series filters.

The filter holder rotates easily, plus you can adjust the rectangular Grad ND filter up and down or to any angle necessary so that the horizon line is where it needs to be. Just do this after focusing the lens and you'll be okay.

Do not get the screw-in ND Grad filters. They position the horizon line the same place all the time, making them a whole lot less useful. The standard ND filters are fine in screw-in type (and it doesn't matter if they rotate with the lens)... just not the Graduated ND.

Note: You also might look into applying adjustments in post-processing that can be even more effective and precise than ND Grad filters at the time of exposure. To be honest, I have a set, but hardly use my ND Grads any more. I just "double process" a RAW file in Lightroom & Photoshop - one exposure setting for the foreground, the other for the sky (or whatever) - then combine the "correct" parts of each via layers and masks in Photoshop. Since I rarely see a horizon that's a straight line, this gives more accurate results than any filter could, in most cases. Of course, if you don't already have the softwares, buying them would be considerably more expensive than a modest set of Cokin filters. Plus there's somewhat of a learning curve involved.


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Jan 01, 2013 10:21 |  #4

you could look at square filters...i've got hitech filters like these:
http://www.2filter.com​/prices/htpackages.htm​l (external link)

i don't use them much...but they allow you to set the horizon at different levels, where as a screw in filter would just be in the center i think

and if you get a different lens, you can just get the right adapter to put them onto later down the road


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