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Jan 01, 2013 10:45 |  #1

What kind of hard drive should I buy for my Mac? The one I had last time was WD Elements 2 TB USB 2.0, but it ended up failed 3 times and in result I lost over 12,000 raw photos and over 5,000 raw video footages. I need something more reliable but not too expensive.


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Jan 01, 2013 10:53 |  #2

Whatever you buy, make sure you get two.

Any hard drive will eventually fail, so you should always have a backup.


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Jan 01, 2013 10:57 |  #3

jakele_x wrote in post #15430880 (external link)
What kind of hard drive should I buy for my Mac? The one I had last time was WD Elements 2 TB USB 2.0, but it ended up failed 3 times and in result I lost over 12,000 raw photos and over 5,000 raw video footages. I need something more reliable but not too expensive.

Everything fails sooner or later. The fact that you lost images means you didn't have a backup. "Backup" has been the key to digital data processing since Grace Hopper found a cockroach in UNIVAC and said, "I found a bug in the computer!"




  
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Jan 01, 2013 11:22 |  #4

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Everything fails sooner or later. The fact that you lost images means you didn't have a backup. "Backup" has been the key to digital data processing since Grace Hopper found a cockroach in UNIVAC and said, "I found a bug in the computer!"

Actually, in 1947 she was involved in the Harvard University Mark II Aiken Relay Calculator and (but not present) a moth was found.


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Jan 01, 2013 11:29 |  #5

Heath wrote in post #15430899 (external link)
Whatever you buy, make sure you get two.

Any hard drive will eventually fail, so you should always have a backup.

At least one backup. Two is best, with one offsite. Often when folks have a home fire, one of the first comments is "we lost all our family photos." Computers are also a theft item.


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Jan 01, 2013 11:40 |  #6

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Actually, in 1947 she was involved in the Harvard University Mark II Aiken Relay Calculator and (but not present) a moth was found.

Some myths deserve to be maintained.




  
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Jan 01, 2013 12:02 |  #7

I have learned this the hard way, with a few close calls. My main computer was stolen about 10 yrs ago, but fortunately I had backed up my photo collection onto DVDs. Since then I have maintained a backup collection of my photo, video and other important media on a separate drive. One of my backup drives has physically failed too.

I had been trying to burn everything onto DVDs, but the price of external drives are ridiculously cheap these days. On Black Friday, I got a 2TB WD USB drive for $60. Cloud storage is also very reasonable and I am using Crashplan. I think jemanner nailed it by saying 2 onsite copies and a third offsite.

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At least one backup. Two is best, with one offsite. Often when folks have a home fire, one of the first comments is "we lost all our family photos." Computers are also a theft item.




  
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Jan 01, 2013 12:11 |  #8

Heath wrote in post #15430899 (external link)
Whatever you buy, make sure you get two.

Any hard drive will eventually fail, so you should always have a backup.

The right question at first would be "What is the best way I back up my digital data?"

Tedyun: Cloud storage is also very reasonable and I am using Crashplan. I think jemanner nailed it by saying 2 onsite copies and a third offsite.Cloud will prove to be that right Way of future. Everything else needs Visa and two crossing fingures all the time!


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Jan 01, 2013 12:14 |  #9

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The right question at first would be "What is the best way I back up my digital data?"

Cloud storage is also very reasonable and I am using Crashplan. I think jemanner nailed it by saying 2 onsite copies and a third offsite.

Cloud will prove to be that right Way of future. Everything else needs Visa and two crossing fingures all the time!

Don't bet on Cloud exclusively...a number of on-line data storage companies vanished overnight in the past 3 years, and a number of large very well companies have decided to exit the cloud storage business!


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Jan 01, 2013 12:18 |  #10

If you get WD drives it needs to be the black drives... Or velociraptor


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Jan 01, 2013 12:21 |  #11

samsen wrote in post #15431144 (external link)
The right question at first would be "What is the best way I back up my digital data?"

Cloud storage is also very reasonable and I am using Crashplan. I think jemanner nailed it by saying 2 onsite copies and a third offsite.

Cloud will prove to be that right Way of future. Everything else needs Visa and two crossing fingures all the time!

I purchased my backblaze account in October 2011. Of 902GB (742GB of images), I have 259GB remaining to backup.

The reality is that I probably do not need to backup all the images as a lot of them are crap. That said, I have been shooting timelapses over the holiday break and shot about 120GB of images.

While I agree offsite backup is important, I cannot help but wonder how viable of an option this is for photographers.


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Jan 01, 2013 12:23 |  #12

Wilt wrote in post #15431151 (external link)
Don't bet on Cloud exclusively...a number of on-line data storage companies vanished overnight in the past 3 years, and a number of large very well companies have decided to exit the cloud storage business!

The cloud is not yet a full backup solution for people who have large amounts of data (such as photographers). It would take me literally weeks of downloading to recover all my data from the cloud if I had a full data loss.




  
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Jan 01, 2013 12:26 |  #13

Heath wrote in post #15431171 (external link)
I purchased my backblaze account in October 2011. Of 902GB (742GB of images), I have 259GB remaining to backup.

The reality is that I probably do not need to backup all the images as a lot of them are crap. That said, I have been shooting timelapses over the holiday break and shot about 120GB of images.

While I agree offsite backup is important, I cannot help but wonder how viable of an option this is for photographers.

i purchased my crashplan account on august 3rd. Since that time i've uploaded 3.7TB. The weddings i shoot on the weekend are around 100-150gbs each and they're usually uploaded completely within the week. Absolutely a viable option.


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Jan 01, 2013 12:27 |  #14

RDKirk wrote in post #15431178 (external link)
The cloud is not yet a full backup solution for people who have large amounts of data (such as photographers). It would take me literally weeks of downloading to recover all my data from the cloud if I had a full data loss.

or you could have them mail you a drive.


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Jan 01, 2013 12:27 |  #15

Heath wrote in post #15431171 (external link)
While I agree offsite backup is important, I cannot help but wonder how viable of an option this is for photographers.

It was viable enough for the New Orleans VA hospital. Just prior to being struck by Katrina, they downloaded their patient database to hard drives, evacuated it to the VA hospital in Houston TX, and put it back on line so that patient records would be available wherever the patients evacuated to.

With 3 and 4 terabyte drives available, rotating hard drives and keeping one off site is not a tremendous problem.

To be honest, though, it's probably satisfactory for 99.44% of possibilities just to keep one drive physically separated, even if in the same house.




  
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