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Jan 01, 2013 13:14 |  #1

I see from Canon Rumours that a rumour has started in Japan about a Canon 1Dsx coming this year. In what looks like a newspaper ad are a number of different cameras, but its the 1Dsx which excites me.

I'm looking for Canon to leapfrog the Nikon 800E with a high MP body with less noise and banding than Nikon, never mind any existing Canon. At the moment the 800E is the leader in so many different areas.

It would be nice if it was in the body form of the original 1Ds range, because I have large hands and long fingers and the larger body suits me better.


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Jan 01, 2013 13:46 |  #2

That seems odd to me as the old 1d bodies were 1.3 crop and the 1ds bodies were full frame.
now that the 1dx is full frame I dont see why an S model would be made.



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Jan 01, 2013 13:46 |  #3

I was under the impression Canon have said that is that with the flagship bodies, and the 1Dx is it as far as the pro-bodies go and a separate 'S' version. Though having said that I have wondered how Canon would react to any Nikon D4x, if one of them ever turns up.

Canon must have something to respond to the D800 in the pipeline, i'm just wondering if there's any need to house it in a pro-body, given i'm not sure if photojournalists need all those pixels for newspapers, which of course is the primary market for cameras built like tanks.


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Jan 01, 2013 13:53 |  #4

Medium format perhaps?


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Jan 01, 2013 14:00 as a reply to  @ Jahled's post |  #5

I was always under the impression the (s) meant studio in the 1ds series. It wouldn't surprise me to see Canon release a body with that designation later in the year. Imagine 42-45 megapixels, 4fps, iso comparable to the 5d3 or 1dx. It would be the camera my newly completed pc was built for.


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Jan 01, 2013 14:06 as a reply to  @ Thorrulz's post |  #6

I wonder, will it have ECF?


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Jan 01, 2013 14:17 |  #7

jhayesvw wrote in post #15431477 (external link)
That seems odd to me as the old 1d bodies were 1.3 crop and the 1ds bodies were full frame.
now that the 1dx is full frame I dont see why an S model would be made.

Thats what Canon claimed when they introduced the 1Dx, however since then they have admitted they are working on a 1Ds successor. What it will be called I've no idea.

The 1dX was never the camera for me. I'm a landscapist through and through, so the 800E with its superb and clean images is the target (I hope). Some of the side by side 100% crops from the 800E compared to the 5D2 and 5D3 on the internet are "illuminating"!


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Jan 01, 2013 14:47 |  #8

Brendo666 wrote in post #15431504 (external link)
Medium format perhaps?

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't a medium format sensor require a unique line of lenses?


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Jan 01, 2013 14:48 |  #9

Jahled wrote in post #15431713 (external link)
Just out of curiosity, wouldn't a medium format sensor require a unique line of lenses?

Yes it would. Otherwise, EF lenses would be like EF-S lenses are now to 35mm FF.


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Jan 01, 2013 14:55 |  #10

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Yes it would. Otherwise, EF lenses would be like EF-S lenses are now to 35mm FF.

Which therefore begs the question could Canon physically be capable of designing, making, marketing and selling a new range of lenses?

Above and beyond most of our needs as photographers, there is a new set of lenses they have introduced, the new cinema range, the price of which are astronomical. I was in Park Cameras on Friday and the guy I was chatting to said they will be a special order item, and never stocked due to the cost of them. Whilst I wouldn't envisage the cost of a new range of medium format lenses as anywhere close to what that line have been announced at (and check their website, the cost of them is mental), I simply can't see Canon expecting us to do a 1987 all over again.


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Jan 01, 2013 14:56 |  #11

Jahled wrote in post #15431713 (external link)
Just out of curiosity, wouldn't a medium format sensor require a unique line of lenses?

In theory you could use EF lenses to illuminate a medium format sensor, but you will run into focusing issues (As you would have to move the mount farther from the sensor) and you will also lose a few stops of light doing so. I have been meaning to play with this idea as it would be nice if I could figure out a way to reuse my glass when I start playing with wet plate photography, but I doubt that will be viable.

Personally I expect Canon to eventually come out with a professional medium format system at some point, but would be surprised if it is any time soon. It would mean a new lens system to be practical, and I don't really expected till cost of quality full frames has dropped and the 'high end' market currently clamouring for full frame becomes ready to make the next jump up to reasonable cost medium format. (For much the same reason so many people here say that full frame is so much better and totally magical compared to crop sensors)


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Jan 01, 2013 15:15 |  #12

Thorrulz wrote in post #15431538 (external link)
I was always under the impression the (s) meant studio in the 1ds series. It wouldn't surprise me to see Canon release a body with that designation later in the year. Imagine 42-45 megapixels, 4fps, iso comparable to the 5d3 or 1dx. It would be the camera my newly completed pc was built for.

I am starting to put together a plan for a cs6 rig and have been drowning in info on different parts. You care to share the makeup of your new rig? Im trying to get a feeling for what others have in there computers.


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Jan 01, 2013 15:36 |  #13

Thorrulz wrote in post #15431538 (external link)
I was always under the impression the (s) meant studio in the 1ds series. It wouldn't surprise me to see Canon release a body with that designation later in the year. Imagine 42-45 megapixels, 4fps, iso comparable to the 5d3 or 1dx. It would be the camera my newly completed pc was built for.

Why only 4 fps? If the 5D Mk III can handle 6 fps, being a 1 series body, I think it should have a minimum of 8 fps!!


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Jan 01, 2013 15:57 |  #14

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Why only 4 fps? If the 5D Mk III can handle 6 fps, being a 1 series body, I think it should have a minimum of 8 fps!!

If it is a super high res camera designed for studio and land scape work, then I wouldn't really expect a desire for high FPS shooting. 4 is more than enough when you take a few minutes to frame and setup each shot before hitting the shutter.


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Jan 01, 2013 16:04 |  #15

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If it is a super high res camera designed for studio and land scape work, then I wouldn't really expect a desire for high FPS shooting. 4 is more than enough when you take a few minutes to frame and setup each shot before hitting the shutter.

But what if you can only afford one camera, and want to shoot landscapes, wildlife, BIF, macro, some portraits, some sports? You want a "one size fits all" camera with high MP, high FPS, a 1 series body with the built-in grip, etc. If it's a trade off between super duper high ISO capability, and high FPS, I'd take the high FPS, and have a maximum ISO of even 12,800 or 25,600 the most. (And 12,800 might even be too high!) JMHO. :cool:


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