Triggers, please help!

Sorry if this is a dumb question but I wanted to know if it was possible to wirelessly trigger flashes and also wirelessly trigger the shutter. I see triggers that do both but not both at the same time. I was looking at the Cactus V5 but if there is a cheaper alternative please let me know.

Yongnuo RF 603 can do it with 3 transceivers. Go to their site and view the manual for how to set this up.
Most other units can do it with 4 units. One pair connected to the shutter port and a second pair on a different channel doing the flash.

NJKEV wrote in post #15431576
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I wanted to know if it was possible to wirelessly trigger flashes and also wirelessly trigger the shutter. I see triggers that do both but not both at the same time. I was looking at the Cactus V5 but if there is a cheaper alternative please let me know.

Yes, it is. I use either my YN-622C sets or my Pixel King sets - either in normal configuration with Tx on camera hotshoe and Rx under each flash unit. On top of either of the on-camera trigger units, I put a Pixel TW-282 receiver which is plugged into the remote release port on camera side. Then "pressy the button, flashy flashy, picture takey". 100% reliable without any messing about with channels or anything else. Choice of whether to use the Yongnuo or the Pixel triggers is purely arbitrary - whichever is nearest to hand is what I use.

This also readily disproves that common female assertion that "Men can't multi-task" - I frequently walk into the kitchen and start the espresso machine with my right hand while triggering the camera with my left. Different rooms, two simultaneous & vital tasks. Sometimes I even swap hands, it all depends which pocket the TF-282 release is in! Such a poseur

This arrangement (the radio trigger flash + radio shutter release I mean, not the espresso machine) means that I can use any pairing convenient. I can also use the units individually; or I can use the TF-282 + either flash trigger in intervalometer mode and walk away completely. Now that's just plain IDLE. (Next stage is intervalometer-coupled espresso maker :lol.

dedsen wrote in post #15431678
Yongnuo RF 603 can do it with 3 transceivers. Go to their site and view the manual for how to set this up.
Most other units can do it with 4 units. One pair connected to the shutter port and a second pair on a different channel doing the flash.

Here is a link to a block diagram that was put together (by member MinngreenGT) for the YN-603 triggers that shows what is needed to trigger the camera shutter and trigger a flash. There are two distinct events occurring. One set of triggers to fire the shutter, and another set (or more) to fire the flash. The trigger for the shutter needs to be on a different channel than the trigger for the flash.

https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=12025669&po​stcount=12

Hope this helps,

110yd

That diagram needs one more option. Since the RF 603 units have two distinct circuits in each transceiver, you can trigger the shutter and a remote flash with just 3 units. You place one transceiver in the hotshoe and also connect it to the camera shutter port with the cord provided with the triggers. You connect the second transceiver to the foot of the remote flash. The 3rd transceiver is in your had to trigger the camera. When you press the shutter release button on the unit in your hand it triggers the shutter release circuit of the Rf 603 in the hotshoe that trips the camera shutter release port. This fires the camera and triggers the hotsoe sending a signal to the unit on the flash.
The down side to these units is the shutter release button on the transceiver replaced the test button. Now there is no way to fire test flashes from a handheld transceiver.

110yd wrote in post #15432707
Here is a link to a block diagram that was put together (by member MinngreenGT) for the YN-603 triggers that shows what is needed to trigger the camera shutter and trigger a flash. There are two distinct events occurring. One set of triggers to fire the shutter, and another set (or more) to fire the flash. The trigger for the shutter needs to be on a different channel than the trigger for the flash.

https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=12025669&po​stcount=12

Hope this helps,

110yd

That image is incorrect. The RF-603 are transceivers which allow shutter release and flash triggering with the one unit. If you were using RF-602 you would need a second pair like that image shows (people did try to point out the mistake in that thread).


The main problem with the RF-603 is they have slow sync speeds (and no locking rings, and bad switch position, and channel selection, etc etc).

A much better (and cheaper) alternative now are the new Commlite Comtrig T320. Though you would need a Comtrig H550 as transmitter unit if you wanted to trigger flash and shutter with one set like the RF-603. You can see more details about them here in my guide - http://flashhavoc.com/​which-radio-trigger/

[EDIT - Dale beat me to it]

NJKEV wrote in post #15431576
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I wanted to know if it was possible to wirelessly trigger flashes and also wirelessly trigger the shutter. I see triggers that do both but not both at the same time. I was looking at the Cactus V5 but if there is a cheaper alternative please let me know.

Cactus V can do it, but you need 2 transceivers (set to a different channel than the flashes). So if you want a 3 light set up, you need a total of 6: 1 on each light, one on camera hotshoe, 1 in hand to trigger shutter, and 1 attached to camera via shutter cord.

But overall, there are multiple ways to do this with various systems.

Pocket wizards can do both.

Aputure Trigmaster Plus can do this and unlike other systems the trigger/receiver are in the same unit. So you only need to buy receivers which makes them pretty cost effective as they can serve as dual duty. If i were to choose anything else with TTL capability it would be YN622C at this point in time. I just prefer systems that don't have a dedicated transmitter because if it fails and you have no backup you are SOL.