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Canon 15-85 f/3.5-5.6 vs. Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4.5

 
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Jan 01, 2013 14:54 |  #1

I have been using a Sigma 17-70 on my 60D for a few years as my walk-around travel lens. However, in consideration of the excellent reviews on the Canon 15-85 (in conjunction with my improving skills), I am considering purchasing the Canon.

With that said .... is anyone aware of any head-to-head comparisons between the two lenses?

Thank you kindly.




  
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Jan 01, 2013 17:51 |  #2

Never used the Sigma 17-70, though I have used a couple of other Sigmas and been pleased with them, but the 15-85 is a stonking good lens, I've been well pleased with mine.


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Jan 01, 2013 18:21 |  #3

If you can stand to wait a little while longer, the new revised version of the sigma 17-70 is due to be released pretty soon.




  
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Jan 01, 2013 18:26 |  #4

I've owned both. Both excellent and sharp. 15-85 has better AF, wider range and stabilization. 17-70 has a slightly faster aperture and macro. It's a tough call. I think I got as many great shots on the 17-70 as I have the 15-85. I think for what I use it for (landscapes) the wide zoom of the 15-85 makes me a little bit happier. I'd say it's only about a half-step up from that 17-70, though, unless you really need IS.

The sad part is you'll barely net $200 selling your 17-70 and it's a great lens. What other lenses do you have? You might be happier using that money to get an additional lens or upgrading something else.


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Jan 01, 2013 18:55 as a reply to  @ tkbslc's post |  #5

Have owned both as well and the 15-85 was my next lens after the 17-70 non OS. I personally have not once regretted the purchase of the 15-85 as it's my go to general purpose/landscape lens. I've owned it for a little more than 2.5 years. The key differences that I personally noticed in my unscientific comparison:

  • Very fast and reliable USM autofoucs on the 15-85
  • Canon has the IS but Sigma is slightly faster aperture
  • Sigma non-OS has much closer MFD
  • The Canon is sharp wide open, the Sigma needed to be stopped down to get the best out of it.
  • I thought colors/contrast are better with the Canon
  • 15mm vs 17mm is a noticeable difference on the wide end.
That said, and as Taylor pointed out, resale on the 17-70 non-OS is quite low, although I think it would be a real bargain for someone wanting to step up from the 18-55, but not having the money for something more costly. You need to ask yourself though if the approx $350 premium (for a used 15-85) is worth it for the (IMO) net gains that can be realized.

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Jan 01, 2013 19:10 |  #6

shaneotool wrote in post #15432493 (external link)
If you can stand to wait a little while longer, the new revised version of the sigma 17-70 is due to be released pretty soon.

Isn't it already out? 17-70 2.8-4.0 Macro




  
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Jan 01, 2013 19:28 |  #7

ct1co2 wrote in post #15432649 (external link)
Have owned both as well and the 15-85 was my next lens after the 17-70 non OS. I personally have not once regretted the purchase of the 15-85 as it's my go to general purpose/landscape lens. I've owned it for a little more than 2.5 years. The key differences that I personally noticed in my unscientific comparison:
  • Very fast and reliable USM autofoucs on the 15-85
  • Canon has the IS but Sigma is slightly faster aperture
  • Sigma has much closer MFD
  • The Canon is sharp wide open, the Sigma needed to be stopped down to get the best out of it.
  • I thought colors/contrast are better with the Canon
  • 15mm vs 17mm is a noticeable difference on the wide end.
That said, and as Taylor pointed out, resale on the 17-70 is quite low, although I think it would be a real bargain for someone wanting to step up from the 18-55, but not having the money for something more costly. You need to ask yourself though if the approx $350 premium (for a used 15-85) is worth it for the (IMO) net gains that can be realized.

Not a fare comparison. You are talking about the older, non-OS version of the Sigma 17-70. The OS version is much improved.




  
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Jan 01, 2013 19:32 |  #8

Lbsimon wrote in post #15432744 (external link)
Not a fare comparison. You are talking about the older, non-OS version of the Sigma 17-70. The OS version is much improved.

The OP asked for comparison of the 15-85 against the non-OS version of the 17-70, so how is my response not fair if I have direct experience with both? :rolleyes:

Edit: I went back and specifically added "non-OS" where applicable to my response, even though it's not really necessary as the non-OS micro-motor focus Sigma is the 2.8-4.5 (clearly indicated in the title) which is what the OP refers to, whereas the OS is a 2.8-4.0 HSM, which is not mentioned.


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Jan 01, 2013 19:35 |  #9

You need to find this guy kfreels. He is the indisputable expert of comparing the 17-70 vs the 15-85. He posts in the 17-70 thread fairly often.




  
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Jan 01, 2013 20:28 |  #10

Thank you, all, for the responses. Currently my range of focal lengths is well-covered for my purposes. On the wide end, I have the Canon 10-22mm. Beyond 70mm, I have the Canon 70-300mm. Toss in a couple of prime lens for portrait & macro duties & I am quite pleased as far as my interests are concerned.

I guess that I am ready to upgrade for better IQ with my walk-around lens. I am fortunate to be able to travel a lot. I am of the mindset (at least as far as international travel is concerned) that whatever I carry with me must fit in the overhead bin on the aircraft. As a result, a medium-angle telephoto zoom lens is my workhorse. For me, if the Canon 15-85 produces appreciably better IQ than the Sigma (all other factors being equal), the price is worth it.

But there is no rush. I can certainly wait until the new Sigma 17-70 is released. Any announced release date?

Again, thank you!




  
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Jan 01, 2013 20:42 |  #11

Lbsimon wrote in post #15432744 (external link)
Not a fare comparison. You are talking about the older, non-OS version of the Sigma 17-70. The OS version is much improved.

The OS version actually has worse optics, so I don't know if I can call it "much improved".


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Jan 01, 2013 21:04 |  #12

Candlesmon wrote in post #15432700 (external link)
Isn't it already out? 17-70 2.8-4.0 Macro

There is a new version of this in the works with slightly different optics and a new exterior. It goes with Sigmas new contemporary, art, sports lens themes.




  
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Jan 05, 2013 16:38 |  #13

shaneotool wrote in post #15433076 (external link)
There is a new version of this in the works with slightly different optics and a new exterior. It goes with Sigmas new contemporary, art, sports lens themes.

Does different mean better? Any word on pricing?




  
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Jan 05, 2013 16:56 as a reply to  @ Candlesmon's post |  #14

I can't give a true head-to-head on the older Sigma and the Canon but can tell you that having got the new OS 17-70, I gave the 15-85 to my daughter as to me, the Sigma gave better results on my 7D.


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Jan 05, 2013 17:14 |  #15

tkbslc wrote in post #15432997 (external link)
The OS version actually has worse optics, so I don't know if I can call it "much improved".

I have the original, non-OS version and the current OS version and I will tell you that the OS version is sharper, more contrasty and focuses faster. Oh, and it has OS.

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