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Jan 07, 2013 14:48 |  #16

yb98 wrote in post #15457081 (external link)
Unfortunately there is no marker of distance.
I just try different positions following a dichotomic strategy (start by the extrems and the try the middle of the interval each time).

I have noticed that some raw files have an exif info concerning the focus distance. So I don't know why this is not used automatically at least for raw files that contain this information.

Thanks. Its unfortunate. The distance scale feature in DLO seems to be incomplete. There is very little on how to use it and without markers, you can even accurately replicate the distance from shot to shot. Also depending on the photo, the changes in the distance scale seem subtle at best unless you compare at the extremes. Well, its free, so I guess I can't complain too much. :D And with DLO applied the results, again depending on the shot, ranges from marginally better to spectacularly better. When viewed at 100% many shots before applying DLO look almost blurry by comparison. The effect reminds me a bit of the Clarity control in Lightroom 4, except the DLO results are significantly sharper with a lot more fine detail (line the rough surface of rocks) which seems to magically appear.


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Jan 07, 2013 17:23 |  #17

Just noticed that the EF 28mm F1.8 USM has been recently added to the compatible lenses list.




  
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Jan 07, 2013 17:29 |  #18

It supports my 16-35 and my 24-105, so I'll check it out...


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Jan 07, 2013 17:34 |  #19

Re: Shooting distance the module defaults to.

With my 70-200 F4.0 IS the default value reflects the actual subject distance. Haven't tried with the 28/1.8 yet...




  
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Jan 08, 2013 09:34 |  #20

Thanks for this thread, learned something very helpful today that won't require me to buy anything. Looks like my EF50mm f/1.4 USM is the only lens in my bagged supported, unless by "EF-S18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS" they are including the new STM version (which I assume is not the case).


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Jan 08, 2013 11:14 |  #21

It seems that the lens data are in fact (Lens+camera) data...
When I edit shots taken with a 70-200 4L + 5D, the lens data are available but for shots taken with the same lens + Digital Rebel they are not available !


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Jan 08, 2013 11:31 |  #22

I have noticed a small bug in the DLO module.
When you select several shots in the main window and then call the edit image window, normally if you modify a parameter in the edit image window, it is applied only to the currently selected shot. However concerning DLO, if you activate it in one shot it is activated not only for the currently selected shot but for all shots of the edit image window. And same if you disable it.


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Jan 08, 2013 12:43 |  #23

yb98 wrote in post #15461407 (external link)
I have noticed a small bug in the DLO module.
When you select several shots in the main window and then call the edit image window, normally if you modify a parameter in the edit image window, it is applied only to the currently selected shot. However concerning DLO, if you activate it in one shot it is activated not only for the currently selected shot but for all shots of the edit image window. And same if you disable it.

I noticed that as well. I created a second copy of a file for comparison and had them both open in the edit window. All other adjustments were applied to the selected image only, but when I applied DLO to the selected image, the non selected image got updated as well. Odd bug.


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Jan 08, 2013 16:23 |  #24

yb98 wrote in post #15461407 (external link)
I have noticed a small bug in the DLO module.
When you select several shots in the main window and then call the edit image window, normally if you modify a parameter in the edit image window, it is applied only to the currently selected shot. However concerning DLO, if you activate it in one shot it is activated not only for the currently selected shot but for all shots of the edit image window. And same if you disable it.

And that goes, I see, for all selected images taken with any (perhaps different) supported lens. The selected Setting value is applied to all, while the Shooting distance remains image-dependent (on 5D3).

If among the selected images there are some taken with non supported lenses, they are skipped on save, although included in the reported total files being processed.




  
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Jan 08, 2013 17:07 |  #25

agedbriar wrote in post #15462663 (external link)
And that goes, I see, for all selected images taken with any (perhaps different) supported lens. The selected Setting value is applied to all, while the Shooting distance remains image-dependent (on 5D3).

If among the selected images there are some taken with non supported lenses, they are skipped on save, although included in the reported total files being processed.

Really odd that DLO should work that way (except for the non supported lenses of course). But then its a very different beast than any other DPP features, since its the only one that increases the size of the file. I suspect that DLO in the next version of DPP will be one of the areas addressed as they figure out how to enhance it even more, so perhaps they'll fix this anomaly then.


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Jan 08, 2013 17:56 |  #26

One more lens now compatible with DLO: the EF 100mm F2.8L Macro IS USM.
Is it possible that I missed it yesterday?

Looking forward to finding the EF 85 F1.8 tomorrow... :D




  
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Jan 08, 2013 17:58 |  #27

agedbriar wrote in post #15463072 (external link)
One more lens now compatible with DLO: the EF 100mm F2.8L Macro IS USM.

Is it possible that I missed it yesterday?

Yeah, I saw it on the list yesterday, so I'd say yeah, you missed it:)!


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Jan 08, 2013 18:02 |  #28

tonylong wrote in post #15463085 (external link)
Yeah, I saw it on the list yesterday, so I'd say yeah, you missed it:)!

Ah, did I?

Well, perhaps I'll have to wait a bit longer for the 85/1.8 ;)




  
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Jan 09, 2013 14:51 |  #29

Testing with 5D3 + 28/1.8 files, DLO alone appears to have no direct effect on CA and I seem unable to combine both DLO and CA edits.

If I do DLO first, the CA tool gets disabled as soon as DLO is saved. If I do CA first, the CA edit is cancelled when DLO is saved.

Any suggestion?




  
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Jan 09, 2013 15:10 |  #30

agedbriar wrote in post #15467078 (external link)
Testing with 5D3 + 28/1.8 files, DLO alone appears to have no direct effect on CA and I seem unable to combine both DLO and CA edits.

If I do DLO first, the CA tool gets disabled as soon as DLO is saved. If I do CA first, the CA edit is cancelled when DLO is saved.

Any suggestion?

I noticed that as well and assumed that DLO included its own CA adjustments. Obviously a bad assumption on my part.


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