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Aug 18, 2018 12:14 |  #8191

Lucas,

I found some fuji images I took before I put my X-t2 w/ 56mm away for the night. This is where I analyzed my situation and changed to different format. I guess this would be deemed "backing up" my relevant discussion.

Is there any suggestions in how to improve this image? I was using f/1.2 to maximize light gathering capabilities. The best solution is to have not taken these photos as no one else seemed to be daring enough :) In the end having an image is better than no image. The IQ is not met in my standards with a RAW file that is stressed and displays severe artifact. This is where i did appreciate a different format. Constructive criticism would be appreciated as I cannot see how improving IQ as I've maxed out the light gathering at f/1.2 for appropriate exposure.

I think this is a good example of how difficult the lighting was to shoot in. I just discovered these files that I used that night. Anyone never shooting in such conditions would easily criticize but I am biting my tongue as I tried my best to see how far I can push my Fuji.

My images stands correct to show the threshold of what IQ I produced with my X-t2 in those lighting conditions. If i used my TT685f and took detail upclose and personal shots the IQ would have been much better. One prime would not have been good enough for my documentation purpose.

This is where the power of 70-200 f/2.8 zoom on my 5dmk4 or using 2 different fuji camera bodies with primes is the method of maximizing IQ. Running and gunning in a dynamic situation is substantially different than fixed / static subjects.

This is proof that I've maximized the limits of the sensor as I used the 56 f/1.2 and sufficient shutter speed to stop action. I made a decision to put the X-t2 camera away after analyzing/chimping the images I saw in my EVF. There is no motion blur but the file just fell apart in that pitch dark situation. IQ is extremely poor and the image presents a canvas look.

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Aug 18, 2018 12:15 |  #8192

Wicked Renault with a VW type 1 engine conversion. Extremely unique to see in my area.


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Aug 18, 2018 12:28 |  #8193

*cough*

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Aug 18, 2018 12:46 |  #8194

*cough* ? Advertisement/Sponsore​d by B&H photo.

Have you noticed the single subject matter is up close. Please analyze the pixel density on the subject as the primary subject in the entire frame. This is entirely a different scene. There is a distinct difference in the scenery and available light. Much easier to hide noise in creamy bokeh in a single subject image that is upclose and personal in camera/subject distance.

Your style of photography you can add artificial lighting or choose better lighting to paint on your static subject matter. This is where different types of photography must be noted. Single human subjects that takes up most of the FOV can benefit due to higher pixel count on the actual subject. The track image is just simply different in scenery.

Also analyze the editing in how the human subject becomes an image of art. This is the intent of the photographer. The human subject becomes more cartoon/canvas like in the high iso images. This is what I commonly see with many photos. This is just the characteristics of the fuji render. You will note the good light in overcast lighting the dancer looks more real to life render. I love fuji for different applications.

Great photographer with a good eye in this youtube feed. I'm afraid your reference point has no relation to the lighting in the late evening at the track.

Please constructively suggest how I could have maximized IQ using an X-t2 w/ Fuji 56 f/1.2 at wideopen in the night photo I've posted (#8192). This is hardware limitations and quality of light that I've discussed and nothing to do with the camera settings. This is a prime example of better having a photo rather than none :)


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Aug 18, 2018 13:04 |  #8195

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Geez, your commute would be a whopping 34 minutes. I'm looking at least a 2 hour, 20 minute drive.

Mine is an eight hour flight but I’m not going


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Aug 18, 2018 13:13 |  #8196

AlanU wrote in post #18686738 (external link)
Lucas,

I found some fuji images I took before I put my X-t2 w/ 56mm away for the night. This is where I analyzed my situation and changed to different format. I guess this would be deemed "backing up" my relevant discussion.

Is there any suggestions in how to improve this image? I was using f/1.2 to maximize light gathering capabilities. The best solution is to have not taken these photos as no one else seemed to be daring enough :) In the end having an image is better than no image. The IQ is not met in my standards with a RAW file that is stressed and displays severe artifact. This is where i did appreciate a different format. Constructive criticism would be appreciated as I cannot see how improving IQ as I've maxed out the light gathering at f/1.2 for appropriate exposure.

I think this is a good example of how difficult the lighting was to shoot in. I just discovered these files that I used that night. Anyone never shooting in such conditions would easily criticize but I am biting my tongue as I tried my best to see how far I can push my Fuji.

My images stands correct to show the threshold of what IQ I produced with my X-t2 in those lighting conditions. If i used my TT685f and took detail upclose and personal shots the IQ would have been much better. One prime would not have been good enough for my documentation purpose.

This is where the power of 70-200 f/2.8 zoom on my 5dmk4 or using 2 different fuji camera bodies with primes is the method of maximizing IQ. Running and gunning in a dynamic situation is substantially different than fixed / static subjects.

This is proof that I've maximized the limits of the sensor as I used the 56 f/1.2 and sufficient shutter speed to stop action. I made a decision to put the X-t2 camera away after analyzing/chimping the images I saw in my EVF. There is no motion blur but the file just fell apart in that pitch dark situation. IQ is extremely poor and the image presents a canvas look.

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Maybe you have an issue with your X-T2, my shots at ISO6400 never look like that...


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Aug 18, 2018 13:14 |  #8197

AlanU wrote in post #18686738 (external link)
Lucas,
Is there any suggestions in how to improve this image? I was using f/1.2 to maximize light gathering capabilities. The best solution is to have not taken these photos as no one else seemed to be daring enough :) In the end having an image is better than no image. The IQ is not met in my standards with a RAW file that is stressed and displays severe artifact. This is where i did appreciate a different format. Constructive criticism would be appreciated as I cannot see how improving IQ as I've maxed out the light gathering at f/1.2 for appropriate exposure.

I think this is a good example of how difficult the lighting was to shoot in. I just discovered these files that I used that night. Anyone never shooting in such conditions would easily criticize but I am biting my tongue as I tried my best to see how far I can push my Fuji.

This is proof that I've maximized the limits of the sensor as I used the 56 f/1.2 and sufficient shutter speed to stop action. I made a decision to put the X-t2 camera away after analyzing/chimping the images I saw in my EVF. There is no motion blur but the file just fell apart in that pitch dark situation. IQ is extremely poor and the image presents a canvas look.

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I think this is actually proof of the exact opposite...

You could have easily lowered the shutter speed by 2 or 3 stops, why didn't you?

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Please constructively suggest how I could have maximized IQ using an X-t2 w/ Fuji 56 f/1.2 at wideopen in the night photo I've posted (#8192). This is hardware limitations and quality of light that I've discussed and nothing to do with the camera settings. This is a prime example of better having a photo rather than none :)

I'm seriously not trying to be rude here, but as I pointed out above, I think this is 100% an issue with camera settings. You were shooting a static subject at 1/800s with a 56mm lens... why?


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Aug 18, 2018 13:15 |  #8198

Till I’m blue in the face from shouting the same thing. Posted loads of 12800iso shots here one of a cake earlier today. All full of detail and colour it was too. Yet others demonstrate the opposite result. Now given the equipment is the same how can we explain the cleanliness of one over the other.


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Aug 18, 2018 13:15 |  #8199

I found a bee on my fence post who appears to be too wet to fly... So I took advantage ...:-P

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Aug 18, 2018 13:19 |  #8200

AlanU wrote in post #18686738 (external link)
Lucas,

I found some fuji images I took before I put my X-t2 w/ 56mm away for the night. This is where I analyzed my situation and changed to different format. I guess this would be deemed "backing up" my relevant discussion.

Is there any suggestions in how to improve this image? I was using f/1.2 to maximize light gathering capabilities. The best solution is to have not taken these photos as no one else seemed to be daring enough :) In the end having an image is better than no image. The IQ is not met in my standards with a RAW file that is stressed and displays severe artifact. This is where i did appreciate a different format. Constructive criticism would be appreciated as I cannot see how improving IQ as I've maxed out the light gathering at f/1.2 for appropriate exposure.

I think this is a good example of how difficult the lighting was to shoot in. I just discovered these files that I used that night. Anyone never shooting in such conditions would easily criticize but I am biting my tongue as I tried my best to see how far I can push my Fuji.

My images stands correct to show the threshold of what IQ I produced with my X-t2 in those lighting conditions. If i used my TT685f and took detail upclose and personal shots the IQ would have been much better. One prime would not have been good enough for my documentation purpose.

This is where the power of 70-200 f/2.8 zoom on my 5dmk4 or using 2 different fuji camera bodies with primes is the method of maximizing IQ. Running and gunning in a dynamic situation is substantially different than fixed / static subjects.

This is proof that I've maximized the limits of the sensor as I used the 56 f/1.2 and sufficient shutter speed to stop action. I made a decision to put the X-t2 camera away after analyzing/chimping the images I saw in my EVF. There is no motion blur but the file just fell apart in that pitch dark situation. IQ is extremely poor and the image presents a canvas look.

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sorry you must be shooting in jpeg poorly underexposing it and boosting the hell out of it then cropping in hard.
My XT1 had cleaner ISO6400 shots.
Also these are terrible photos even if they were perfectly clean images


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Aug 18, 2018 13:21 |  #8202

Anyway, back to sharing photos from my subpar camera :lol:

My brother's step-daughter and my sister's daughter kicking it off at the beach. So sad they live so far away from each-other, they kicked it off so well the whole week :)

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Aug 18, 2018 13:24 |  #8203

here are some more of the old XT1 photos

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Aug 18, 2018 13:28 |  #8204

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I think this is actually proof of the exact opposite...

You could have easily lowered the shutter speed by 2 or 3 stops, why didn't you?

I'm seriously not trying to be rude here, but as I pointed out above, I think this is 100% an issue with camera settings. You were shooting a static subject at 1/800s with a 56mm lens... why?

I was prepping to shoot movement at 1/1000ss. Saw the image and threw it in my gear bag.

Something to consider next year.....


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Aug 18, 2018 13:39 |  #8205

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I was prepping to shoot movement at 1/1000ss. Saw the image and threw it in my gear bag.

Something to consider next year.....

That doesn't explain two shots with similar settings at different times... so again, how is this a failure on the part of the gear used? If you made a mistake, own it... don't come in here claiming that Fuji could never get the shots you got with your other gear and even start a thread just to boast about it when your argument is so easily dismantled.


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