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Jan 07, 2013 16:04 |  #76

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well the price of the 24/28's did go down in price right? if this lens ever settles down to ~500, I think it's a nice worthwhile upgrade over the 35F2. USM, aperture blades, and IS. 850 is way too high though.

sure did. the 28 f2.8 IS is $619 shipped at BH. i figure anything under $700 is a good price for the 35mm f2 IS. i'll put it this way i much rather have this prime than the 24-105L.


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Jan 07, 2013 16:06 |  #77

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i view this lens as a good one for people that like to go out to restaurants, night on the town kind of thing, and take food pics...IS would be super useful there...fast aperture allows them to get shots of friends/family...small​, light-weight so it's not to hard to take along...the price could come down a bit, and be nice...

all that being said, i'm not one of those people...my only concern is that canon is going to add IS to every prime lens, and then all of a sudden i'm paying an extra $500 whether i like it or not...as long as the older lenses aren't being discontinued, i'm ok...but they did discontinue the 24/28mm f2.8's...so i wonder if it's just a matter of time before the 35f2 goes...

i doubt they add IS to the 35L but i think the price increase will be higher than $500. so you'll get to pay more and not get IS. that would make the 35 f2 IS an instant bargain even at $850 :D.


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Jan 07, 2013 16:07 |  #78

$907 down under with Canon warranty.


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Jan 07, 2013 16:13 |  #79

dochollidayda wrote in post #15457032 (external link)
Question, did it miss focus shooting wide open? I like my 50/1.4 but it does miss focus at F1.4 20% of the time. It could just be my shaky hands.

yes! remember i was shooting in very low light at f2 and at very slow shutter speeds and many times close to MFD. i missed focus more than i thought i would. this lens definitely has a learning curve if you are going to use it at its limits.

good question. i'm glad you brought it up :D.


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Jan 07, 2013 16:23 |  #80

ed rader wrote in post #15457807 (external link)
sure did. the 28 f2.8 IS is $619 shipped at BH. i figure anything under $700 is a good price for the 35mm f2 IS. i'll put it this way i much rather have this prime than the 24-105L.

I don't believe we can really say that their price has really gone down if we're only talking about a (theoretically time-limited) rebate. Their rebate still seem to be higher than those offered for primes in a similar price range, so that might be saying something about how many they've sold (i.e. one of these two has a rebate of 150$, same as the 100L, despite having a base price that is roughly 200$ lower). Still, that would be an indication that Canon has realized they've made a mistake in pricing these lenses, and might be trying to correct it over the mid-term.

That being said, I quite liked your image samples from the 35 f/2 IS, and will definitely consider it when I'll be shopping for a 35mm.

Now that I'm typing the message, I can't remember if you're shooting on FF or crop, but are noticing a lot of vignetting? Is it really that softer than the Sigma 35 (when pixel peeping I mean ;))?


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Jan 07, 2013 16:23 |  #81

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I might dump one of my kids for this lens lol.

Thanks Ed. This lens will be mine by the end of the year. I'd probably also get rid of my 50mm and 40mm.

i'm pretty good with one prime at a time. i like the 50 1.4 but the focal length is longish for me. the 40mm would get smoked by my 24-70L II. i want one low light lens that brings something extra to the kit.

i've narrowed it down to the 35 IS and the sigma 35 1.4. if the canon were $650 i'd look no further and BIN but because of the price similarity and the excellent reviews the sigma also deserves a look.


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Jan 07, 2013 16:26 |  #82

ed rader wrote in post #15457894 (external link)
i'm pretty good with one prime at a time. i like the 50 1.4 but the focal length is longish for me. the 40mm would get smoked by my 24-70L II. i want one low light lens that brings something extra to the kit.

i've narrowed it down to the 35 IS and the sigma 35 1.4. if the canon were $650 i'd look no further and BIN but because of the price similarity and the excellent reviews the sigma also deserves a look.

I am with you on that one - I am now down to these two 35mm, thinking the IS would be perfect for me. Will probably hold out for that...


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Jan 07, 2013 16:38 |  #83

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I don't believe we can really say that their price has really gone down if we're only talking about a (theoretically time-limited) rebate. Their rebate still seem to be higher than those offered for primes in a similar price range, so that might be saying something about how many they've sold (i.e. one of these two has a rebate of 150$, same as the 100L, despite having a base price that is roughly 200$ lower). Still, that would be an indication that Canon has realized they've made a mistake in pricing these lenses, and might be trying to correct it over the mid-term.

That being said, I quite liked your image samples from the 35 f/2 IS, and will definitely consider it when I'll be shopping for a 35mm.

Now that I'm typing the message, I can't remember if you're shooting on FF or crop, but are noticing a lot of vignetting? Is it really that softer than the Sigma 35 (when pixel peeping I mean ;))?

thank you. i'm shooting FF. i can't really speak to the sigma's sharpness but i'll know in the next couple of weeks :D. my main concern with the canon was sharpness at f2...i.e., if it were truly usable at f2. i think it is.

i'm not seeing much vignetting but even if i did that's a quality that doesn't bother me either way. also for narrower DOF corner sharpness and sharpness "across the frame" are very minor points for me.


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Jan 07, 2013 17:17 |  #84

ed rader wrote in post #15457851 (external link)
yes! remember i was shooting in very low light at f2 and at very slow shutter speeds and many times close to MFD. i missed focus more than i thought i would. this lens definitely has a learning curve if you are going to use it at its limits.

good question. i'm glad you brought it up :D.

Ah so it very similar to 50/1.4. I can surely miss some shots at MFD, so I have learned to shoot it at F2.8 for consistency unless I am really trying to get some orgasmic bokeh. :D

If you shot all those images at F2 then those images look sharp enough. I am very tempted by the Sigma but I am scared of the lotto. This is my hobby and I want to spend more time shooting and less time trading lenses.


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Jan 07, 2013 17:53 |  #85

michgirl wrote in post #15457909 (external link)
I am with you on that one - I am now down to these two 35mm, thinking the IS would be perfect for me. Will probably hold out for that...

Sigma 35 is huge (relatively) and feel heavy, not a good idea in your case I think. In my case, I found out that unless i feel comfortable with the lens or camera ergonomically, i wouldn't be happy with it regardless how good it is.


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Jan 07, 2013 18:05 |  #86

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i doubt they add IS to the 35L but i think the price increase will be higher than $500. so you'll get to pay more and not get IS. that would make the 35 f2 IS an instant bargain even at $850 :D.

i think that's why the 24/28mm f2.8 IS lenses were released with such a high price point...when the 35f2IS came out, I actually thought it wasn't bad...hell, if they were charging $850, and $800 for an f2.8 prime before...this is like gaining a stop for free :)


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Jan 07, 2013 18:45 |  #87

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Sigma 35 is huge (relatively) and feel heavy, not a good idea in your case I think. In my case, I found out that unless i feel comfortable with the lens or camera ergonomically, i wouldn't be happy with it regardless how good it is.

That's part of what I'd still be worried about with Canon's new 35mm...it seems almost too small to hold comfortably even when attached to the camera. I always had trouble with my nifty fifty, and I'm barely comfortable with my 60mm. The 35mm looks a bit smaller.


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DreDaze wrote in post #15458298 (external link)
hell, if they were charging $850, and $800 for an f2.8 prime before...this is like gaining a stop for free :)

That's what's worrying me but....since the 35f2 IS is a whole stop faster than the 24/28 IS, Canon might never drop it down to the same level.

And Ed nice samples. But again I don't see anything else apart from dead subjects ;)


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Jan 07, 2013 19:17 |  #89

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And Ed nice samples. But again I don't see anything else apart from dead subjects ;)

I don't see your insistence on using that to bash IS. As has been pointed out, people you shoot might be posing (holding themselves as immobile as they can), and IS would be helpful with that, as with the other static objects that might within the frame and/or plane of focus.

Even though IS won't compensate for low light if you need to stop motion, I won't hinder in stopping motion if you can achieve the necessary shutter speed. And even if the difference between f1.4 and f2 might be sufficient to achieve that shutter speed, it still might not be enough to achieve the depth of field you'd want with the picture.

You by ceaselessly pointing out the "shortcomings" of IS, you're just beating a dead horse: every lens is a compromise, and this one isn't different in that regard.

edit: it's also a bit unsettling to call them 'dead subjects'. I know you're probably making a play on the French term 'nature morte', but really, no one is shooting corpses here ;)


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Jan 07, 2013 19:18 |  #90

[QUOTE=Apricane;154584​47]That's part of what I'd still be worried about with Canon's new 35mm...it seems almost too small to hold comfortably even when attached to the camera. I always had trouble with my nifty fifty, and I'm barely comfortable with my 60mm. The 35mm looks a bit smaller.[/quote]

the 35 takes a 67mm filter. it's actually bigger than the 50 1.4 and much more solid, a perfect size for the 5d3 or the 7d.


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